MSI & MST Icon Removal

[Michael Fraser]

et all;

I'm attempting to create a network deployable install of AutoCAD 2004. I have both a MSI and MST to apply to it that handles all the work. I cannot seem, however, to get rid of the Start Menu programs folder or desktop icon (even though it's NOT seletected according to the MST).

I've attempted to delete the icons using InstallShield's MSI Tuner, and Masai Editor, however if I delete the shortcuts this produces an invalid msi/mst that just throws an error code at the start.

Any ideas on how to get rid of these pesky icons?

[Jimmy Bergmark]

I solved it with a vbs that deletes them after the installation. But the
problem is that if another user logs in they are recreated so this has to be
handled as well.

--
Best Regards, Jimmy Bergmark
CAD and Database Developer Manager at www.pharmadule-emtunga.com
Take a look at
JTB FlexReport (FLEXlm report tool) - www.jtbworld.com/jtbflexreport
SmartPurger (Purges automatically) - www.jtbworld.com/?/smartpurger.htm
or download some freeware at www.jtbworld.com
More on AutoCAD 2005;
www.jtbworld.com/autocad2005.htm


"Michael Fraser" <fraserm@ipfw.edu> skrev i meddelandet
news:410a9c34$1_2@newsprd01...

et all;

I'm attempting to create a network deployable install of AutoCAD 2004. I
have both a MSI and MST to apply to it that handles all the work. I cannot

seem, however, to get rid of the Start Menu programs folder or desktop icon
(even though it's NOT seletected according to the MST).

I've attempted to delete the icons using InstallShield's MSI Tuner, and
Masai Editor, however if I delete the shortcuts this produces an invalid

msi/mst that just throws an error code at the start.

Any ideas on how to get rid of these pesky icons?

[Michael Fraser]

Yeah, luckily Novell supports running post termination scripts, it's just a hassle that they can't be disabled. My end-gripe is more or less the opposite of yours. The icons are only re-installed once the local install get's corrupted, but in order to get rid of the icons I have to create either a 3-chained program launch (install, then a template to remove the icons, then launch the program) or just have a quick dos box that just basically flashes tied to the install/launch app that unfortunately wants to delete the icons every time, even though it only needs to do it when the install is ran.

Feature Request Autodesk? ;)

-
Junior Network Systems Programmer
Indiana University Purdue University at Fort Wayne
http://users.ipfw.edu/fraserm/

Jimmy Bergmark<info@jtbworld.com> 7/30/2004 2:25:03 PM
I solved it with a vbs that deletes them after the installation. But the

problem is that if another user logs in they are recreated so this has to be
handled as well.

--
Best Regards, Jimmy Bergmark
CAD and Database Developer Manager at www.pharmadule-emtunga.com
Take a look at
JTB FlexReport (FLEXlm report tool) - www.jtbworld.com/jtbflexreport
SmartPurger (Purges automatically) - www.jtbworld.com/?/smartpurger.htm
or download some freeware at www.jtbworld.com
More on AutoCAD 2005;
www.jtbworld.com/autocad2005.htm


"Michael Fraser" <fraserm@ipfw.edu> skrev i meddelandet
news:410a9c34$1_2@newsprd01...

et all;

I'm attempting to create a network deployable install of AutoCAD 2004. I
have both a MSI and MST to apply to it that handles all the work. I cannot

seem, however, to get rid of the Start Menu programs folder or desktop icon
(even though it's NOT seletected according to the MST).

I've attempted to delete the icons using InstallShield's MSI Tuner, and
Masai Editor, however if I delete the shortcuts this produces an invalid

msi/mst that just throws an error code at the start.

Any ideas on how to get rid of these pesky icons?

[Bud Schroeder [Autodesk I]

Hi Michael,

Unfortunately this is a wish list we won't be able to grant. We have looked
at it for a while now and it has to do with how we advertise the product.
So we need it this way for part of MS LOGO.

I just wanted to let you know that we have looked at this and in the future
if we can make it work we will most likely add it to the product. But for
now it can not change.

Hope this helps and thanks for the feedback.

Bud Schroeder
AutoCAD Test Development
Autodesk Inc.


"Michael Fraser" <fraserm@ipfw.edu> wrote in message
news:410ab940$1_2@newsprd01...

Yeah, luckily Novell supports running post termination scripts, it's just
a hassle that they can't be disabled. My end-gripe is more or less the

opposite of yours. The icons are only re-installed once the local install
get's corrupted, but in order to get rid of the icons I have to create
either a 3-chained program launch (install, then a template to remove the
icons, then launch the program) or just have a quick dos box that just
basically flashes tied to the install/launch app that unfortunately wants to
delete the icons every time, even though it only needs to do it when the
install is ran.

Feature Request Autodesk? ;)

-
Junior Network Systems Programmer
Indiana University Purdue University at Fort Wayne
http://users.ipfw.edu/fraserm/

Jimmy Bergmark<info@jtbworld.com> 7/30/2004 2:25:03 PM
I solved it with a vbs that deletes them after the installation. But the
problem is that if another user logs in they are recreated so this has to
be
handled as well.

--
Best Regards, Jimmy Bergmark
CAD and Database Developer Manager at www.pharmadule-emtunga.com
Take a look at
JTB FlexReport (FLEXlm report tool) - www.jtbworld.com/jtbflexreport
SmartPurger (Purges automatically) - www.jtbworld.com/?/smartpurger.htm
or download some freeware at www.jtbworld.com
More on AutoCAD 2005;
www.jtbworld.com/autocad2005.htm


"Michael Fraser" <fraserm@ipfw.edu> skrev i meddelandet
news:410a9c34$1_2@newsprd01...
et all;

I'm attempting to create a network deployable install of AutoCAD 2004.
I
have both a MSI and MST to apply to it that handles all the work. I
cannot
seem, however, to get rid of the Start Menu programs folder or desktop
icon
(even though it's NOT seletected according to the MST).

I've attempted to delete the icons using InstallShield's MSI Tuner, and
Masai Editor, however if I delete the shortcuts this produces an invalid
msi/mst that just throws an error code at the start.

Any ideas on how to get rid of these pesky icons?

[Michael Fraser]

Bud,

Thank you for the response :) Adobe and some other software perform the same way, so this doesn't really suprise me. If the requirements of the MS LOGO program ever change though, don't hesitate please =)

-
Junior Network Systems Programmer
Indiana University Purdue University Fort Wayne
http://users.ipfw.edu/fraserm/

Bud Schroeder [Autodesk Inc.]<bud.schroeder@autodesk.com> 7/31/2004 1:01:12 PM
Hi Michael,

Unfortunately this is a wish list we won't be able to grant. We have looked
at it for a while now and it has to do with how we advertise the product.
So we need it this way for part of MS LOGO.

I just wanted to let you know that we have looked at this and in the future
if we can make it work we will most likely add it to the product. But for
now it can not change.

Hope this helps and thanks for the feedback.

Bud Schroeder
AutoCAD Test Development
Autodesk Inc.


"Michael Fraser" <fraserm@ipfw.edu> wrote in message
news:410ab940$1_2@newsprd01...

Yeah, luckily Novell supports running post termination scripts, it's just
a hassle that they can't be disabled. My end-gripe is more or less the

opposite of yours. The icons are only re-installed once the local install
get's corrupted, but in order to get rid of the icons I have to create
either a 3-chained program launch (install, then a template to remove the
icons, then launch the program) or just have a quick dos box that just
basically flashes tied to the install/launch app that unfortunately wants to
delete the icons every time, even though it only needs to do it when the
install is ran.

Feature Request Autodesk? ;)

-
Junior Network Systems Programmer
Indiana University Purdue University at Fort Wayne
http://users.ipfw.edu/fraserm/

Jimmy Bergmark<info@jtbworld.com> 7/30/2004 2:25:03 PM
I solved it with a vbs that deletes them after the installation. But the
problem is that if another user logs in they are recreated so this has to
be
handled as well.

--
Best Regards, Jimmy Bergmark
CAD and Database Developer Manager at www.pharmadule-emtunga.com
Take a look at
JTB FlexReport (FLEXlm report tool) - www.jtbworld.com/jtbflexreport
SmartPurger (Purges automatically) - www.jtbworld.com/?/smartpurger.htm
or download some freeware at www.jtbworld.com
More on AutoCAD 2005;
www.jtbworld.com/autocad2005.htm


"Michael Fraser" <fraserm@ipfw.edu> skrev i meddelandet
news:410a9c34$1_2@newsprd01...
et all;

I'm attempting to create a network deployable install of AutoCAD 2004.
I
have both a MSI and MST to apply to it that handles all the work. I
cannot
seem, however, to get rid of the Start Menu programs folder or desktop
icon
(even though it's NOT seletected according to the MST).

I've attempted to delete the icons using InstallShield's MSI Tuner, and
Masai Editor, however if I delete the shortcuts this produces an invalid
msi/mst that just throws an error code at the start.

Any ideas on how to get rid of these pesky icons?

[Thomas Nsssrallah]

How about just removing the desktop shortcuts?

Tom N

"Bud Schroeder [Autodesk Inc.]" <bud.schroeder@autodesk.com> wrote in
message news:410bde65$1_3@newsprd01...

Hi Michael,

Unfortunately this is a wish list we won't be able to grant. We have
looked
at it for a while now and it has to do with how we advertise the product.
So we need it this way for part of MS LOGO.

I just wanted to let you know that we have looked at this and in the
future
if we can make it work we will most likely add it to the product. But for
now it can not change.

Hope this helps and thanks for the feedback.

Bud Schroeder
AutoCAD Test Development
Autodesk Inc.


"Michael Fraser" <fraserm@ipfw.edu> wrote in message
news:410ab940$1_2@newsprd01...
Yeah, luckily Novell supports running post termination scripts, it's
just
a hassle that they can't be disabled. My end-gripe is more or less the
opposite of yours. The icons are only re-installed once the local install
get's corrupted, but in order to get rid of the icons I have to create
either a 3-chained program launch (install, then a template to remove the
icons, then launch the program) or just have a quick dos box that just
basically flashes tied to the install/launch app that unfortunately wants
to
delete the icons every time, even though it only needs to do it when the
install is ran.

Feature Request Autodesk? ;)

-
Junior Network Systems Programmer
Indiana University Purdue University at Fort Wayne
http://users.ipfw.edu/fraserm/

Jimmy Bergmark<info@jtbworld.com> 7/30/2004 2:25:03 PM
I solved it with a vbs that deletes them after the installation. But the
problem is that if another user logs in they are recreated so this has
to
be
handled as well.

--
Best Regards, Jimmy Bergmark
CAD and Database Developer Manager at www.pharmadule-emtunga.com
Take a look at
JTB FlexReport (FLEXlm report tool) - www.jtbworld.com/jtbflexreport
SmartPurger (Purges automatically) - www.jtbworld.com/?/smartpurger.htm
or download some freeware at www.jtbworld.com
More on AutoCAD 2005;
www.jtbworld.com/autocad2005.htm


"Michael Fraser" <fraserm@ipfw.edu> skrev i meddelandet
news:410a9c34$1_2@newsprd01...
et all;

I'm attempting to create a network deployable install of AutoCAD 2004.
I
have both a MSI and MST to apply to it that handles all the work. I
cannot
seem, however, to get rid of the Start Menu programs folder or desktop
icon
(even though it's NOT seletected according to the MST).

I've attempted to delete the icons using InstallShield's MSI Tuner,
and
Masai Editor, however if I delete the shortcuts this produces an invalid
msi/mst that just throws an error code at the start.

Any ideas on how to get rid of these pesky icons?

[Bud Schroeder [Autodesk I]

Hi Michael,

You got it ;-)... It is a wishlist item that we do track on the Team that
writes the NIW.

Thanks

Bud


"Michael Fraser" <fraserm@ipfw.edu> wrote in message
news:410e5c4a$1_3@newsprd01...

Bud,

Thank you for the response :) Adobe and some other software perform the
same way, so this doesn't really suprise me. If the requirements of the MS

LOGO program ever change though, don't hesitate please =)

-
Junior Network Systems Programmer
Indiana University Purdue University Fort Wayne
http://users.ipfw.edu/fraserm/

Bud Schroeder [Autodesk Inc.]<bud.schroeder@autodesk.com> 7/31/2004
1:01:12 PM
Hi Michael,

Unfortunately this is a wish list we won't be able to grant. We have
looked
at it for a while now and it has to do with how we advertise the product.
So we need it this way for part of MS LOGO.

I just wanted to let you know that we have looked at this and in the
future
if we can make it work we will most likely add it to the product. But for
now it can not change.

Hope this helps and thanks for the feedback.

Bud Schroeder
AutoCAD Test Development
Autodesk Inc.


"Michael Fraser" <fraserm@ipfw.edu> wrote in message
news:410ab940$1_2@newsprd01...
Yeah, luckily Novell supports running post termination scripts, it's
just
a hassle that they can't be disabled. My end-gripe is more or less the
opposite of yours. The icons are only re-installed once the local install
get's corrupted, but in order to get rid of the icons I have to create
either a 3-chained program launch (install, then a template to remove the
icons, then launch the program) or just have a quick dos box that just
basically flashes tied to the install/launch app that unfortunately wants
to
delete the icons every time, even though it only needs to do it when the
install is ran.

Feature Request Autodesk? ;)

-
Junior Network Systems Programmer
Indiana University Purdue University at Fort Wayne
http://users.ipfw.edu/fraserm/

Jimmy Bergmark<info@jtbworld.com> 7/30/2004 2:25:03 PM
I solved it with a vbs that deletes them after the installation. But the
problem is that if another user logs in they are recreated so this has
to
be
handled as well.

--
Best Regards, Jimmy Bergmark
CAD and Database Developer Manager at www.pharmadule-emtunga.com
Take a look at
JTB FlexReport (FLEXlm report tool) - www.jtbworld.com/jtbflexreport
SmartPurger (Purges automatically) - www.jtbworld.com/?/smartpurger.htm
or download some freeware at www.jtbworld.com
More on AutoCAD 2005;
www.jtbworld.com/autocad2005.htm


"Michael Fraser" <fraserm@ipfw.edu> skrev i meddelandet
news:410a9c34$1_2@newsprd01...
et all;

I'm attempting to create a network deployable install of AutoCAD 2004.
I
have both a MSI and MST to apply to it that handles all the work. I
cannot
seem, however, to get rid of the Start Menu programs folder or desktop
icon
(even though it's NOT seletected according to the MST).

I've attempted to delete the icons using InstallShield's MSI Tuner,
and
Masai Editor, however if I delete the shortcuts this produces an invalid
msi/mst that just throws an error code at the start.

Any ideas on how to get rid of these pesky icons?

[Bud Schroeder [Autodesk I]

Hi Thomas,

I did pass this on as a wish list item to the NIW Team.

Hope this helps.

Bud


"Thomas Nsssrallah" <tnussrallah@eacg.com> wrote in message
news:410eff2b_1@newsprd01...

How about just removing the desktop shortcuts?

Tom N

"Bud Schroeder [Autodesk Inc.]" <bud.schroeder@autodesk.com> wrote in
message news:410bde65$1_3@newsprd01...
Hi Michael,

Unfortunately this is a wish list we won't be able to grant. We have
looked
at it for a while now and it has to do with how we advertise the
product.
So we need it this way for part of MS LOGO.

I just wanted to let you know that we have looked at this and in the
future
if we can make it work we will most likely add it to the product. But
for
now it can not change.

Hope this helps and thanks for the feedback.

Bud Schroeder
AutoCAD Test Development
Autodesk Inc.


"Michael Fraser" <fraserm@ipfw.edu> wrote in message
news:410ab940$1_2@newsprd01...
Yeah, luckily Novell supports running post termination scripts, it's
just
a hassle that they can't be disabled. My end-gripe is more or less the
opposite of yours. The icons are only re-installed once the local
install
get's corrupted, but in order to get rid of the icons I have to create
either a 3-chained program launch (install, then a template to remove
the
icons, then launch the program) or just have a quick dos box that just
basically flashes tied to the install/launch app that unfortunately
wants
to
delete the icons every time, even though it only needs to do it when the
install is ran.

Feature Request Autodesk? ;)

-
Junior Network Systems Programmer
Indiana University Purdue University at Fort Wayne
http://users.ipfw.edu/fraserm/

Jimmy Bergmark<info@jtbworld.com> 7/30/2004 2:25:03 PM
I solved it with a vbs that deletes them after the installation. But
the
problem is that if another user logs in they are recreated so this has
to
be
handled as well.

--
Best Regards, Jimmy Bergmark
CAD and Database Developer Manager at www.pharmadule-emtunga.com
Take a look at
JTB FlexReport (FLEXlm report tool) - www.jtbworld.com/jtbflexreport
SmartPurger (Purges automatically) -
www.jtbworld.com/?/smartpurger.htm
or download some freeware at www.jtbworld.com
More on AutoCAD 2005;
www.jtbworld.com/autocad2005.htm


"Michael Fraser" <fraserm@ipfw.edu> skrev i meddelandet
news:410a9c34$1_2@newsprd01...
et all;

I'm attempting to create a network deployable install of AutoCAD
2004.
I
have both a MSI and MST to apply to it that handles all the work. I
cannot
seem, however, to get rid of the Start Menu programs folder or desktop
icon
(even though it's NOT seletected according to the MST).

I've attempted to delete the icons using InstallShield's MSI Tuner,
and
Masai Editor, however if I delete the shortcuts this produces an
invalid
msi/mst that just throws an error code at the start.

Any ideas on how to get rid of these pesky icons?

[Michael Fraser]

Thank you!! =)

Bud Schroeder [Autodesk Inc.]<bud.schroeder@autodesk.com> 8/4/2004 9:07:42 AM
Hi Michael,

You got it ;-)... It is a wishlist item that we do track on the Team that
writes the NIW.

Thanks

Bud


"Michael Fraser" <fraserm@ipfw.edu> wrote in message
news:410e5c4a$1_3@newsprd01...

Bud,

Thank you for the response :) Adobe and some other software perform the
same way, so this doesn't really suprise me. If the requirements of the MS

LOGO program ever change though, don't hesitate please =)

-
Junior Network Systems Programmer
Indiana University Purdue University Fort Wayne
http://users.ipfw.edu/fraserm/

Bud Schroeder [Autodesk Inc.]<bud.schroeder@autodesk.com> 7/31/2004
1:01:12 PM
Hi Michael,

Unfortunately this is a wish list we won't be able to grant. We have
looked
at it for a while now and it has to do with how we advertise the product.
So we need it this way for part of MS LOGO.

I just wanted to let you know that we have looked at this and in the
future
if we can make it work we will most likely add it to the product. But for
now it can not change.

Hope this helps and thanks for the feedback.

Bud Schroeder
AutoCAD Test Development
Autodesk Inc.


"Michael Fraser" <fraserm@ipfw.edu> wrote in message
news:410ab940$1_2@newsprd01...
Yeah, luckily Novell supports running post termination scripts, it's
just
a hassle that they can't be disabled. My end-gripe is more or less the
opposite of yours. The icons are only re-installed once the local install
get's corrupted, but in order to get rid of the icons I have to create
either a 3-chained program launch (install, then a template to remove the
icons, then launch the program) or just have a quick dos box that just
basically flashes tied to the install/launch app that unfortunately wants
to
delete the icons every time, even though it only needs to do it when the
install is ran.

Feature Request Autodesk? ;)

-
Junior Network Systems Programmer
Indiana University Purdue University at Fort Wayne
http://users.ipfw.edu/fraserm/

Jimmy Bergmark<info@jtbworld.com> 7/30/2004 2:25:03 PM
I solved it with a vbs that deletes them after the installation. But the
problem is that if another user logs in they are recreated so this has
to
be
handled as well.

--
Best Regards, Jimmy Bergmark
CAD and Database Developer Manager at www.pharmadule-emtunga.com
Take a look at
JTB FlexReport (FLEXlm report tool) - www.jtbworld.com/jtbflexreport
SmartPurger (Purges automatically) - www.jtbworld.com/?/smartpurger.htm
or download some freeware at www.jtbworld.com
More on AutoCAD 2005;
www.jtbworld.com/autocad2005.htm


"Michael Fraser" <fraserm@ipfw.edu> skrev i meddelandet
news:410a9c34$1_2@newsprd01...
et all;

I'm attempting to create a network deployable install of AutoCAD 2004.
I
have both a MSI and MST to apply to it that handles all the work. I
cannot
seem, however, to get rid of the Start Menu programs folder or desktop
icon
(even though it's NOT seletected according to the MST).

I've attempted to delete the icons using InstallShield's MSI Tuner,
and
Masai Editor, however if I delete the shortcuts this produces an invalid
msi/mst that just throws an error code at the start.

Any ideas on how to get rid of these pesky icons?