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Thread: Problems with Ground plane artwork

  1. #1
    Jan Beck Guest

    Problems with Ground plane artwork

    Hello everybody, I would greatly appreciate if someone could help me
    with this problem or point me at the right place to look.

    I am using Cadence Allegro.
    I have just had a board manufactured and in it I have one ground
    plane. I called the plane GND in the stackup and the net GND in
    sechematic. The design routed completely.

    The problem: none of the ground pins are connected to the ground
    plane, they are as isolated from the plane as the rest of the pins. I
    checked in the gerber file, and sure enough the plane is negative and
    present.

    Anyone have an idea of what I have done wrong?

    Thanks to anyone who took the time to read this,

    JAn

  2. #2
    Greg Guest
    When creating this plane, did you assign a signal to it? Like "GND"?
    If you left out this step, you created a "Dummy" plane with no
    connections. Do an "Info" on the plane...it should say "Dummy" as your
    signal name. If so, edit the plane and assign the signal "GND" to that
    plane.

    I bet if you check your board stats or do a ratsnest, you won't have a
    100% connected board and it will tell you or you will see that the
    plane "GND" is the culprit.

    If by a wild chance, "GND" is assigned to that plane, check your
    padstacks on your various pads and pins on the board...that is where
    the info for flashes/connections are taken from to make the
    connections to the plane.

    janbeck@gmail.com (Jan Beck) wrote in message news:<f9fbbdf3.0409151932.64527cd@posting.google.c om>...
    Hello everybody, I would greatly appreciate if someone could help me
    with this problem or point me at the right place to look.

    I am using Cadence Allegro.
    I have just had a board manufactured and in it I have one ground
    plane. I called the plane GND in the stackup and the net GND in
    sechematic. The design routed completely.

    The problem: none of the ground pins are connected to the ground
    plane, they are as isolated from the plane as the rest of the pins. I
    checked in the gerber file, and sure enough the plane is negative and
    present.

    Anyone have an idea of what I have done wrong?

    Thanks to anyone who took the time to read this,

    JAn

  3. #3
    Jan Beck Guest
    This is going to sound silly I bet, but I dont know how to select the
    plane. The only place I can find information about the plane is in the
    stackup dialog and I have called the plane GND there. I have gotten
    one other reply via email that states Allegro does not care what the
    plane is called in the stackup and I have to assign the net name
    somewhere else.

    So my question is how do I assign a net to a plane? The plane does not
    show up as a solid color anywhere, so how do I click on it? A quick
    reply just pointing out the menu to go to would be perfect.

    Thank you for taking the time to read this

    JAn


    gsletch@yahoo.com (Greg) wrote in message news:<1c163be7.0409181009.566b8893@posting.google. com>...
    When creating this plane, did you assign a signal to it? Like "GND"?
    If you left out this step, you created a "Dummy" plane with no
    connections. Do an "Info" on the plane...it should say "Dummy" as your
    signal name. If so, edit the plane and assign the signal "GND" to that
    plane.

    I bet if you check your board stats or do a ratsnest, you won't have a
    100% connected board and it will tell you or you will see that the
    plane "GND" is the culprit.

    If by a wild chance, "GND" is assigned to that plane, check your
    padstacks on your various pads and pins on the board...that is where
    the info for flashes/connections are taken from to make the
    connections to the plane.

    janbeck@gmail.com (Jan Beck) wrote in message news:<f9fbbdf3.0409151932.64527cd@posting.google.c om>...
    Hello everybody, I would greatly appreciate if someone could help me
    with this problem or point me at the right place to look.

    I am using Cadence Allegro.
    I have just had a board manufactured and in it I have one ground
    plane. I called the plane GND in the stackup and the net GND in
    sechematic. The design routed completely.

    The problem: none of the ground pins are connected to the ground
    plane, they are as isolated from the plane as the rest of the pins. I
    checked in the gerber file, and sure enough the plane is negative and
    present.

    Anyone have an idea of what I have done wrong?

    Thanks to anyone who took the time to read this,

    JAn

  4. #4
    Jan Beck Guest
    OK, I just solved the problem. Very much a beginner's mistake I bet.
    So for the benefit of future students looking at this post, I will
    make clear what was not clear to me:

    My assumption was that making a plane layer in the stackup would
    create a plane of solid copper by itself. This is not true. You have
    to designate the layer as a plane and then fill it with copper by
    yourself. You can do this by selecting the correct layer in the
    options tab on the right hand side of the screen and then picking the
    "etch" class and the subclass corresponding to your layer, e.g. "GND".
    You then can fill this layer with copper using the shape add tool, for
    example a rectangle. ON the right hand side of the screen you can then
    see options for the shape, including its name, which has to be the
    same name as the net that should be routed in this plane, e.g."gnd".

    Thanks for everyone who took the time to help me, your comments
    pointed me in the right direction. I very much appreciate it.

    JAn

    gsletch@yahoo.com (Greg) wrote in message
    news:<1c163be7.0409181009.566b8893@posting.google. com>...
    When creating this plane, did you assign a signal to it? Like "GND"?
    If you left out this step, you created a "Dummy" plane with no
    connections. Do an "Info" on the plane...it should say "Dummy" as your
    signal name. If so, edit the plane and assign the signal "GND" to that
    plane.

    I bet if you check your board stats or do a ratsnest, you won't have a
    100% connected board and it will tell you or you will see that the
    plane "GND" is the culprit.

    If by a wild chance, "GND" is assigned to that plane, check your
    padstacks on your various pads and pins on the board...that is where
    the info for flashes/connections are taken from to make the
    connections to the plane.

    janbeck@gmail.com (Jan Beck) wrote in message news:<f9fbbdf3.0409151932.64527cd@posting.google.c om>...
    Hello everybody, I would greatly appreciate if someone could help me
    with this problem or point me at the right place to look.

    I am using Cadence Allegro.
    I have just had a board manufactured and in it I have one ground
    plane. I called the plane GND in the stackup and the net GND in
    sechematic. The design routed completely.

    The problem: none of the ground pins are connected to the ground
    plane, they are as isolated from the plane as the rest of the pins. I
    checked in the gerber file, and sure enough the plane is negative and
    present.

    Anyone have an idea of what I have done wrong?

    Thanks to anyone who took the time to read this,

    JAn

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