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jon_banquer
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Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 11:57 pm    Post subject: In The Last Year.... Reply with quote

a lot of negative crap was posted to this newsgroup in regards to VX
not being mature enough. In addition, this newsgroup has attracted the
kind of blind product loyalist that we once attributed to Autodesk
newsgroups.

It's enough to make one puke.

The FACT is that VX has a rate of developement that makes SolidWorks
Corp. look very, very foolish.

Anyone wish to compare what VX offers with their hybrid approach and
fully integrated CAM compared to SolidWorks hack and wack non unified,
non seamless approach ?

Anyone care to comment on SolidWorks continued lack of very powerful,
broad spectrum, fully integrated CAM ?

How about SolidWorks continued inability to work with imported surfaces
like they were created natively ?

The link below should give those who used VX or Varimetrix 2 or 3 years
ago an idea of how well VX has progressed compared to SolidWorks:

http://www.vx.com/articles/CADALYST%20V10%20Review.pdf


Maybe it's time to expect a hell of a lot more from SolidWorks Corp.
rather than tiny footsteps of progress dolled out at an alarmingly slow
rate ?

Maybe it's time for those who expect major change in SolidWorks rate of
development to move on to companies that "get it" like VX, think3, etc
?

jon

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Kman
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Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 2:14 am    Post subject: Re: In The Last Year.... Reply with quote

Merry Christmas!
Kman


"jon_banquer" <jon_banquer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1104001026.745877.294510@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
a lot of negative crap was posted to this newsgroup in regards to VX
not being mature enough. In addition, this newsgroup has attracted the
kind of blind product loyalist that we once attributed to Autodesk
newsgroups.

It's enough to make one puke.

The FACT is that VX has a rate of developement that makes SolidWorks
Corp. look very, very foolish.

Anyone wish to compare what VX offers with their hybrid approach and
fully integrated CAM compared to SolidWorks hack and wack non unified,
non seamless approach ?

Anyone care to comment on SolidWorks continued lack of very powerful,
broad spectrum, fully integrated CAM ?

How about SolidWorks continued inability to work with imported surfaces
like they were created natively ?

The link below should give those who used VX or Varimetrix 2 or 3 years
ago an idea of how well VX has progressed compared to SolidWorks:

http://www.vx.com/articles/CADALYST%20V10%20Review.pdf


Maybe it's time to expect a hell of a lot more from SolidWorks Corp.
rather than tiny footsteps of progress dolled out at an alarmingly slow
rate ?

Maybe it's time for those who expect major change in SolidWorks rate of
development to move on to companies that "get it" like VX, think3, etc
?

jon
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Cliff
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Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 11:12 am    Post subject: Re: In The Last Year.... Reply with quote

On 25 Dec 2004 10:57:06 -0800, "jon_banquer" <jon_banquer@yahoo.com>
wrote:

(In comp.cad.solidworks:)

Quote:
a lot of negative crap was posted to this newsgroup in regards to VX
not being mature enough. In addition, this newsgroup has attracted the
kind of blind product loyalist that we once attributed to Autodesk
newsgroups.

It's enough to make one puke.

The FACT is that VX has a rate of developement that makes SolidWorks
Corp. look very, very foolish.

Anyone wish to compare what VX offers with their hybrid approach and
fully integrated CAM compared to SolidWorks hack and wack non unified,
non seamless approach ?

Anyone care to comment on SolidWorks continued lack of very powerful,
broad spectrum, fully integrated CAM ?

How about SolidWorks continued inability to work with imported surfaces
like they were created natively ?

The link below should give those who used VX or Varimetrix 2 or 3 years
ago an idea of how well VX has progressed compared to SolidWorks:

http://www.vx.com/articles/CADALYST%20V10%20Review.pdf


Maybe it's time to expect a hell of a lot more from SolidWorks Corp.
rather than tiny footsteps of progress dolled out at an alarmingly slow
rate ?

Maybe it's time for those who expect major change in SolidWorks rate of
development to move on to companies that "get it" like VX, think3, etc
?

jon

How is any of that "on topic", jb?
Have you ever actually used any of it/them?
IF so, for what, when & where?

Why not post your BS to an advertising group?
--
Cliff

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Sporkman
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 8:27 am    Post subject: Re: In The Last Year.... Reply with quote

I doubt very seriously that anyone could call most of us regulars "product
loyalists" if you read a cross section of our posts over the last year.
But regardless I'd be willing to give VX a serious listen if you will give
me a serious response. I can't say I like Cliffy's baiting of you better
than others here, but at least I do credit Cliffy with some serious amount
of knowledge and understanding of CAD and CAM and general engineering
issues. You, however, have never seen fit to post anything of what you
have done, designed or attempted to design. How about it? Put your cards
on the table if you want people to hear you out. You've been challenged
not only by Cliff, but also by others in the past to ante up, and I've yet
to see a response from you. Are you, or are you not, actually a designer
of things?

Mark 'Sporky' Stapleton
Watermark Design, LLC
www.h2omarkdesign.com

jon_banquer wrote:

Quote:
a lot of negative crap was posted to this newsgroup in regards to VX
not being mature enough. In addition, this newsgroup has attracted the
kind of blind product loyalist that we once attributed to Autodesk
newsgroups.

It's enough to make one puke.

The FACT is that VX has a rate of developement that makes SolidWorks
Corp. look very, very foolish.

Anyone wish to compare what VX offers with their hybrid approach and
fully integrated CAM compared to SolidWorks hack and wack non unified,
non seamless approach ?

Anyone care to comment on SolidWorks continued lack of very powerful,
broad spectrum, fully integrated CAM ?

How about SolidWorks continued inability to work with imported surfaces
like they were created natively ?

The link below should give those who used VX or Varimetrix 2 or 3 years
ago an idea of how well VX has progressed compared to SolidWorks:

http://www.vx.com/articles/CADALYST%20V10%20Review.pdf

Maybe it's time to expect a hell of a lot more from SolidWorks Corp.
rather than tiny footsteps of progress dolled out at an alarmingly slow
rate ?

Maybe it's time for those who expect major change in SolidWorks rate of
development to move on to companies that "get it" like VX, think3, etc
?

jon
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Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 3:23 am    Post subject: Re: In The Last Year.... Reply with quote

Merry Christmas to all and Happy New Year as well.

Jon,

Please stop trying to SELL us something.

I for one are not interested in your sales pitches. I usually ignor any
threads in which you and Cliff are slamming each other. How can that
honestly be productive to the rest of us who are just looking for
answers to simple Solidworks issues? I believe that most people hit
this newsgroup to keep abreast of Solidworks related issues. Things
that they have encountered or wish to avoid NOT you continuing attempt
at selling us on some other CAD kernel or product or what ever it is
your selling.

Are you managing any systems in a work environment?

Do you deal with the day in day out issues that may arise with these
CAD seats and users?

If not ... please go away and harrass some other newsgroup if you must.
Sincerely,
George
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ken
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Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 8:57 am    Post subject: Re: In The Last Year.... Reply with quote

The problem, as I see it, with products like VX and other NICHE players is
just that...The are niche players. Products like Solid Works, Solid Edge
and Inventor cover a wide breadth of disciplines which are useful to those
that need to do more than just create models for molding and machining, like
large assembly/mechanism design, robust drafting, piping/wiring design. For
most of the users of these systems, surfacing takes up a very small portion
of their design time. I'm sure that VX and Think 3 are very good products
for what they do, but it's what they don't do well that will keep them where
they are.


Ken
"jon_banquer" <jon_banquer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1104001026.745877.294510@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
a lot of negative crap was posted to this newsgroup in regards to VX
not being mature enough. In addition, this newsgroup has attracted the
kind of blind product loyalist that we once attributed to Autodesk
newsgroups.

It's enough to make one puke.

The FACT is that VX has a rate of developement that makes SolidWorks
Corp. look very, very foolish.

Anyone wish to compare what VX offers with their hybrid approach and
fully integrated CAM compared to SolidWorks hack and wack non unified,
non seamless approach ?

Anyone care to comment on SolidWorks continued lack of very powerful,
broad spectrum, fully integrated CAM ?

How about SolidWorks continued inability to work with imported surfaces
like they were created natively ?

The link below should give those who used VX or Varimetrix 2 or 3 years
ago an idea of how well VX has progressed compared to SolidWorks:

http://www.vx.com/articles/CADALYST%20V10%20Review.pdf


Maybe it's time to expect a hell of a lot more from SolidWorks Corp.
rather than tiny footsteps of progress dolled out at an alarmingly slow
rate ?

Maybe it's time for those who expect major change in SolidWorks rate of
development to move on to companies that "get it" like VX, think3, etc
?

jon

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jon_banquer
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Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 11:33 am    Post subject: Re: In The Last Year.... Reply with quote

ken wrote:
Quote:
The problem, as I see it, with products like VX and other NICHE
players is
just that...The are niche players. Products like Solid Works, Solid
Edge
and Inventor cover a wide breadth of disciplines which are useful to
those
that need to do more than just create models for molding and
machining, like
large assembly/mechanism design, robust drafting, piping/wiring
design. For
most of the users of these systems, surfacing takes up a very small
portion
of their design time. I'm sure that VX and Think 3 are very good
products
for what they do, but it's what they don't do well that will keep
them where
they are.


Ken,

One could easily say that SolidWorks is a "NICHE" player compared to
AutoCAD.

Can you please state what VX or thinkID does not do well compared to
SolidWorks. I'm not aware of any modeling advantage SolidWorks has over
either product. I'm also not aware of any advantage SolidWorks has when
working with imported data.



jon
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Cliff
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Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 1:22 pm    Post subject: Re: In The Last Year.... Reply with quote

In article <1104215606.788982.115370@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"jon_banquer" <jon_banquer@yahoo.com> writes:

Quote:
Can you please state what VX or thinkID does not do well compared to
SolidWorks. I'm not aware of any modeling advantage SolidWorks has over
either product. I'm also not aware of any advantage SolidWorks has when
working with imported data.

You are, as usual, just not aware.
IE: Clueless.

HTH
--
Cliff
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Eddie
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Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 9:27 pm    Post subject: Re: In The Last Year.... Reply with quote

Why do you even bother posting here?

Use the product that works best for you and move on with life.
Happy New Year!

...and ..."Bang-the-drum-slowly" somewhere else.
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SWuser
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Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 11:43 pm    Post subject: Re: In The Last Year.... Reply with quote

Why does everyone insist on feeding the troll?


"jon_banquer" <jon_banquer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1104001026.745877.294510@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
a lot of negative crap was posted to this newsgroup in regards to VX
not being mature enough. In addition, this newsgroup has attracted the
kind of blind product loyalist that we once attributed to Autodesk
newsgroups.

It's enough to make one puke.

The FACT is that VX has a rate of developement that makes SolidWorks
Corp. look very, very foolish.

Anyone wish to compare what VX offers with their hybrid approach and
fully integrated CAM compared to SolidWorks hack and wack non unified,
non seamless approach ?

Anyone care to comment on SolidWorks continued lack of very powerful,
broad spectrum, fully integrated CAM ?

How about SolidWorks continued inability to work with imported surfaces
like they were created natively ?

The link below should give those who used VX or Varimetrix 2 or 3 years
ago an idea of how well VX has progressed compared to SolidWorks:

http://www.vx.com/articles/CADALYST%20V10%20Review.pdf


Maybe it's time to expect a hell of a lot more from SolidWorks Corp.
rather than tiny footsteps of progress dolled out at an alarmingly slow
rate ?

Maybe it's time for those who expect major change in SolidWorks rate of
development to move on to companies that "get it" like VX, think3, etc
?

jon
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jon_banquer
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:00 am    Post subject: Re: In The Last Year.... Reply with quote

Their very frustrated with SoldWorks and badly need a release. :>)
jon
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jon_banquer
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:56 am    Post subject: Re: In The Last Year.... Reply with quote

I post here so others will know that there are viable alternatives to
SolidWorks that don't have the severe limitations that SolidWorks does.
I don't charge for this service. :>)

jon
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Cliff
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 4:40 pm    Post subject: Re: In The Last Year.... Reply with quote

In article <1104292611.849560.9560@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "jon_banquer"
<jon_banquer@yahoo.com> writes:

Quote:
I post here so others will know that

You are a clueless buzzword-impaired idiot?
But we already knew that, unless there are a few new folks.
Please keep them informed <G>.

Quote:
NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.88.72.74

CustName: Days Inn (Van Buren)
Address: 3333 Van Buren ST
City: Phoenix
StateProv: AZ

Changed motels did you? A rotating sweeper?

What's the best broom? How do you like working for that
chain/motel owner? IIRC Your prior posts were from a different
Days Inn in Phoenix, right?
--
Cliff
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jon_banquer
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 7:39 am    Post subject: Re: In The Last Year.... Reply with quote

Kman wrote:
Quote:
Merry Christmas!
Kman

Best to you and yours in the New Year.
Can you feel the love ? :>)

jon
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Black Dragon
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 3:34 am    Post subject: Re: In The Last Year.... Reply with quote

greilly@zoll.com wrote:

Quote:
If not ... please go away and harrass some other newsgroup if you must.

Why don't you go piss the fuck off, or maybe learn how to use a kill
file, you insensitive cunt?

Some of us here appreciate what Jon posts. If you don't like it, don't
read it! Sheeze.

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