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Dr. Bob
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:10 pm    Post subject: Translation Pro/E <--> SolidWorks ? Reply with quote

Hi. Thanks in advance to anyone that can help me...

My company has been using Pro/E for about 7 years. (Currently on Wildfire
2). We are looking to team up with a vendor, but this particular vendor
uses SolidWorks. Ideally, we would like to be able to send files back and
forth, and have us both be able to work on those files. In other words, we
want to be able to translate files from one software to the other while
saving the model tree history. So far in tests, we have been able to get
SolidWorks to read Pro/E's model history, but Pro/E has been unable to read
in anything other than a dummy solid.

Has anyone faced this problem before? Are there any solutions? We've
looked for third-party translation software as well, and haven't been able
to find anything. If anyone has any experience doing this and has some
wisdom they can share, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

-Bob M

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Ben Loosli
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation Pro/E <--> SolidWorks ? Reply with quote

There are no solutions. Pro/E does not read the model feature history of
imported files.

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Ben Loosli

"Dr. Bob" <DrBob@DrBob.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

Hi. Thanks in advance to anyone that can help me...

My company has been using Pro/E for about 7 years. (Currently on Wildfire
2). We are looking to team up with a vendor, but this particular vendor
uses SolidWorks. Ideally, we would like to be able to send files back and
forth, and have us both be able to work on those files. In other words,
we
want to be able to translate files from one software to the other while
saving the model tree history. So far in tests, we have been able to get
SolidWorks to read Pro/E's model history, but Pro/E has been unable to
read
in anything other than a dummy solid.

Has anyone faced this problem before? Are there any solutions? We've
looked for third-party translation software as well, and haven't been able
to find anything. If anyone has any experience doing this and has some
wisdom they can share, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

-Bob M

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Jeff Howard
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:09 am    Post subject: Re: Translation Pro/E <--> SolidWorks ? Reply with quote

I wonder ... If you were using SW 2004 and they were using SW 2005; what would
the options be? I think the same answers would apply here.

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David Janes
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:53 am    Post subject: Re: Translation Pro/E <--> SolidWorks ? Reply with quote

Quote:
"Dr. Bob" <DrBob@DrBob.com> wrote in message
news:qLI9f.10425$UW5.5606@trndny09...

Hi. Thanks in advance to anyone that can help me...

My company has been using Pro/E for about 7 years. (Currently on Wildfire 2).
We are looking to team up with a vendor, but this particular vendor uses
SolidWorks. Ideally, we would like to be able to send files back and forth, and
have us both be able to work on those files. In other words, we want to be able
to translate files from one software to the other while saving the model tree
history. So far in tests, we have been able to get SolidWorks to read Pro/E's
model history, but Pro/E has been unable to read in anything other than a dummy
solid.

Has anyone faced this problem before? Are there any solutions? We've looked
for third-party translation software as well, and haven't been able to find
anything. If anyone has any experience doing this and has some wisdom they can
share, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

-Bob M


Naturally, everyone will be ecstatic when Pro/e licenses Spatial's ACIS kernel to
support AutoCAD, Catia; when SW and UG license Granite and ACIS to support Pro/e
and the others; when Catia, UG, ACAD, Pro/e license the Parasolid kernel to be
able to read UG and SW files. Or, when they all get through screwing around and
support the STEP development efforts to produce a parametric, feature based,
associative solid modelling neutral file.

But, as it stands, without these guys licensing each other's modelling kernels
(Parasolid, ACIS & Granite are all commercially available for "interoperability"),
we're left with featureless, nonparametric (often nonsolid) translations via
STEP, IGES, SET, etc. There isn't anything else.

I've seen SW's claim to translate the Pro/e model tree and produce a translated
part with "features". The claim makes good ad copy, but lousey models. It's
nothing more than an IGES with feature names: no parametric control/variability,
no associativity, no real features. Pro/e is straighforwardly bent on giving users
dumb solids, and, like the king on his thrown, trying to dictate the course to
others while remaining obdurately 'neutral'. UG and Catia seem even more aloof,
but this could be merely my ignorance.

No, Bob, I'm afraid no one does feature based, parametric and associative
translations from one kernel to another. And, collectively, they couldn't raise a
blister with the effort they've made toward such a 3d neutral file format. You
should buy a seat of SW and they should buy a seat of WF and just duplicate each
other's modifications and keep these files in your own software's native format.
You can exchange drawings in PDF format; cooperation has gotten at least that far.
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David Janes
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Jeff Howard
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:10 am    Post subject: Re: Translation Pro/E <--> SolidWorks ? Reply with quote

Quote:
when Pro/e licenses Spatial's ACIS kernel to
support AutoCAD, Catia; when SW and UG
license Granite and ACIS to support Pro/e
....
No, Bob, I'm afraid no one does feature based,
parametric and associative translations from one
kernel to another.


Correct me if I'm wrong. "Features" are overlaid, relative the "kernel",
functions and database structures. Cobalt won't read Inventor won't read ...
yadadada native files, preserving parametric relationships and history even
though they share the ACIS kernel. Parametric feature for feature translations
for mid range price are a pipe dream once you get past booleaned primitive
shapes. There are a few companies that develop translators (1 seat ~ cost of 5+
SW or WF seats) for Catia, Ideas, Pro/E, UG. Even with those there are features
that don't have a comparative target system function to plug the input data into
so they resort to an un-feature representation. How's SW going to represent
some of Pro/E's features; VSS, curve by equation, ..., ..., maybe even some
method of datum definition? If Bob's not sellin' SW, he should buy a seat if he
thinks native data swapping will help turn a buck.
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shaun
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:10 am    Post subject: Re: Translation Pro/E <--> SolidWorks ? Reply with quote

SolidWorks is so cheap and easy to learn just by a set of it and do
your work in Solidworks.
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