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K Murray
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Wed Apr 13, 2005 4:51 pm Post subject:
Having CAD examples |
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I have been looking for a CAD position for some time now. One of the most
common questions that comes up is
"Can I see examples of your work ?"
Most employers I have had would frown greatly on me keeping copies for
distribution. And many time you have to sign paperwork saying that you will
not do that.
Ok, any ideas on how to have examples for possible future employers??
K.Murray
Mt.Holly, NC
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Bill Cochell
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Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:24 pm Post subject:
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K Murray wrote:
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Most employers I have had would frown greatly on me keeping copies for
distribution. And many time you have to sign paperwork saying that you will
not do that.
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Ask if you can. If you can't keep a copy...
| Quote: | Ok, any ideas on how to have examples for possible future employers??
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....draw your house on your own time, or if you are looking for a
mechanical drafting position, find some interesting objects and
draw them up.
If you don't live in a house, find an interesting (to you) plan(s)
in a magazine and draw that (them).
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Bill Cochell (lose the _TUDE_ to reply directly) |
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Chris Gyotar
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Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:42 pm Post subject:
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"Bill Cochell" <bcochell@po_TUDE_box.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | K Murray wrote:
Most employers I have had would frown greatly on me keeping copies for
distribution. And many time you have to sign paperwork saying that you
will not do that.
Ask if you can. If you can't keep a copy...
Ok, any ideas on how to have examples for possible future employers??
...draw your house on your own time, or if you are looking for a
mechanical drafting position, find some interesting objects and
draw them up.
If you don't live in a house, find an interesting (to you) plan(s)
in a magazine and draw that (them).
--
Bill Cochell (lose the _TUDE_ to reply directly)
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Try making up an imaginary client, or questioning a friend, and come up with
a concept that you think would best fit their lifestyle. Then after
following up with them, or yourself :) Create a working drawing set from
site plan to millwork details. If employers are told you have done this on
your own time for this interview specifically I believe they would be highly
impressed. Good luck.
Chris
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Tone and Donna
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Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:00 pm Post subject:
Re: Having CAD examples |
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O rmaybe when initially applying for a job, ask the company for a simple
project so you can demonstrate your ability when you have your second
interview. (They have to give you one now !)
"Chris Gyotar" <nope@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
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"Bill Cochell" <bcochell@po_TUDE_box.com> wrote in message
news:lBc7e.38872$Xs.19492@fed1read03...
K Murray wrote:
Most employers I have had would frown greatly on me keeping copies for
distribution. And many time you have to sign paperwork saying that you
will not do that.
Ask if you can. If you can't keep a copy...
Ok, any ideas on how to have examples for possible future employers??
...draw your house on your own time, or if you are looking for a
mechanical drafting position, find some interesting objects and
draw them up.
If you don't live in a house, find an interesting (to you) plan(s)
in a magazine and draw that (them).
--
Bill Cochell (lose the _TUDE_ to reply directly)
Try making up an imaginary client, or questioning a friend, and come up
with
a concept that you think would best fit their lifestyle. Then after
following up with them, or yourself :) Create a working drawing set from
site plan to millwork details. If employers are told you have done this
on
your own time for this interview specifically I believe they would be
highly
impressed. Good luck.
Chris
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longshot
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Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:00 pm Post subject:
strange interview tip ? |
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when I interview young inexperienced people, I like to see someone that is
nervous, it tells me that person cares what I think & wants to do a good job
& make a good impression. Someone that comes across as very confident tells
me they don't really give a shit.
JMO
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The-trooper
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Wed Apr 13, 2005 7:51 pm Post subject:
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Or simply ask your current employer nothing, keep samples on CD and
carry it with you for viewing only - by new employer. |
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Paul Turvill
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Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:46 pm Post subject:
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And what should he tell his prospective employer when they ask, "Did you
have permission to keep copies of your previous employer's drawings?"
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"The-trooper" <haha.the-trooper@net.hr.hehe> wrote in message
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Or simply ask your current employer nothing, keep samples on CD and
carry it with you for viewing only - by new employer. |
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Chris Gyotar
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Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:56 pm Post subject:
Re: Having CAD examples |
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"Paul Turvill" <nospam@turvill.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | And what should he tell his prospective employer when they ask, "Did you
have permission to keep copies of your previous employer's drawings?"
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Honesty is the best policy. First of all he should abide by his current
employers wishes. If not, then explain in the interview that he had no
personal projects for which to present and his current employer was less
than enthusiastic about releasing drawings to a potential competitor. I
think that this will cast doubts in the interview but by stating firmly that
you will not leave these drawings after the interview and you still respect
their confidentiality it will show that the interviewee is putting himself
on the line to best represent himself but is still considering the previous
employer.
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K Murray
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Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:57 pm Post subject:
Re: strange interview tip ? |
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There is a yes and a no here.
Yes being nervous may indicate that they care. But being not nervous might
also mean that they care also but maybe they have been around a bit longer.
"longshot" <hoosier-longshot@aol.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | when I interview young inexperienced people, I like to see someone that
is
nervous, it tells me that person cares what I think & wants to do a good
job
& make a good impression. Someone that comes across as very confident
tells
me they don't really give a shit.
JMO
Rob
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Marc Clamage
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Wed Apr 13, 2005 11:40 pm Post subject:
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I agree with trooper. I have samples of work from previous employers and
clients on my web site and I've showed samples at job interviews. If I'm on
a friendly basis with them, I get an OK and give them a credit. If I'm not
on a friendly basis with them, I just change the title block to "Generic
Architects Inc." (I even have a nice logo for it) and disguise the name of
the project. Nobody's ever commented on it but if they did ask, I'd say
"Sorry, that's proprietary information." Any prospective employer who first
asks to see samples of your work and then zings you with "do you have
permission to show this to me?" is a shmuck anyway.
Marc
"K Murray" <kmurray5@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I have been looking for a CAD position for some time now. One of the most
common questions that comes up is
"Can I see examples of your work ?"
Most employers I have had would frown greatly on me keeping copies for
distribution. And many time you have to sign paperwork saying that you
will not do that.
Ok, any ideas on how to have examples for possible future employers??
K.Murray
Mt.Holly, NC
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G Farris
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Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:59 pm Post subject:
Re: Having CAD examples |
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In article <wq6dnelziK-tGMDfRVn-sQ@whidbeytel.com>, nospam@turvill.com says...
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And what should he tell his prospective employer when they ask, "Did you
have permission to keep copies of your previous employer's drawings?"
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There's a limit to how much of "you" and your production your employer can lay
claim to. If you did the work, you can show it. Courts (in the US) have
consistently sided with employees who claim 'fair use' rights to their own
intellectual production.
Now if there's something in the CONTENT of the work that could compromise the
former employer's interest, that may be different. If you've been working on
active countermeasures for Raytheon, and you show up at Boeing with detailed
drawings, that's not fair use. But if it's an INVENTOR drawing of an injection
molded hairdryer case, there's no intelligence in the actual product not
already known to the prospective employer.
If you show the prospective employer that you are careful about using the
former employer's material, they will assume you will treat them with the same
respect. Print "SAMPLE" on a drawing - degrade it's quality - use a .bmp
instead of a .dwg - don't leave a CD-R loaded with IGES files on it for them
to look at at their leisure . . . |
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longshot
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Thu Apr 14, 2005 1:19 pm Post subject:
Re: Having CAD examples |
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| Quote: | And what should he tell his prospective employer when they ask, "Did you
have permission to keep copies of your previous employer's drawings?"
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There's a limit to how much of "you" and your production your employer can
lay
claim to. If you did the work, you can show it. Courts (in the US) have
consistently sided with employees who claim 'fair use' rights to their own
intellectual production.
Now if there's something in the CONTENT of the work that could compromise
the
former employer's interest, that may be different. If you've been working
on
active countermeasures for Raytheon, and you show up at Boeing with
detailed
drawings, that's not fair use. But if it's an INVENTOR drawing of an
injection
molded hairdryer case, there's no intelligence in the actual product not
already known to the prospective employer.
If you show the prospective employer that you are careful about using the
former employer's material, they will assume you will treat them with the
same
respect. Print "SAMPLE" on a drawing - degrade it's quality - use a .bmp
instead of a .dwg - don't leave a CD-R loaded with IGES files on it for
them
to look at at their leisure . . .
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holy shit! common sense. |
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K Murray
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Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:59 pm Post subject:
Re: Having CAD examples |
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Warning !! There are a lot of schmucks giving CAD interviews. I have had
employers want me to leave CD-R's of example drawings. My opinion is that,
that is the big problem unless you have total permission from previous
employers. (Which never would have happened, in my case, for the companies I
have worked for)
"Marc Clamage" <emasary@comcast.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I agree with trooper. I have samples of work from previous employers and
clients on my web site and I've showed samples at job interviews. If I'm on
a friendly basis with them, I get an OK and give them a credit. If I'm not
on a friendly basis with them, I just change the title block to "Generic
Architects Inc." (I even have a nice logo for it) and disguise the name of
the project. Nobody's ever commented on it but if they did ask, I'd say
"Sorry, that's proprietary information." Any prospective employer who first
asks to see samples of your work and then zings you with "do you have
permission to show this to me?" is a shmuck anyway.
Marc
"K Murray" <kmurray5@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
news:B6c7e.45951$QB6.2668518@twister.southeast.rr.com...
I have been looking for a CAD position for some time now. One of the most
common questions that comes up is
"Can I see examples of your work ?"
Most employers I have had would frown greatly on me keeping copies for
distribution. And many time you have to sign paperwork saying that you
will not do that.
Ok, any ideas on how to have examples for possible future employers??
K.Murray
Mt.Holly, NC
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longshot
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Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:29 pm Post subject:
Re: Having CAD examples |
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| just show them prints & take them with you when you leave. |
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ggfromuk
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Sun Apr 24, 2005 10:15 pm Post subject:
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one takes the pis I think, the reason they are nervous shows your
inexperience at interviewing and putting prospective employees at ease,
havin bin interviewed many times (bein contract), and know my capabilities
sets the prospective employer at ease that I wont shit me pants at the first
hostile client or consultant and will ineffect safe guard his company
against bidantic and over bearing naive little men like ya,(well ya could b
a woman with that statement)....
Im sure there must b a course ya can take 2 bring ya bak down 2 earth
gently,,,,I would try morphine n weed 2 start wiv......guessin ya about 58 n
still a lowly employee in a big company wiv no prospects watsoeva
best wishes and thanx 4 the laugh,plz dont reply 2 any more queries on here
bubyeeeee
Geo
xoxoxoxoxo
"longshot" <hoosier-longshot@aol.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | when I interview young inexperienced people, I like to see someone that
is
nervous, it tells me that person cares what I think & wants to do a good
job
& make a good impression. Someone that comes across as very confident
tells
me they don't really give a shit.
JMO
Rob
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