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BWelch@carrollhealthcare.
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Thu Dec 08, 2005 8:44 am Post subject:
Assembly Tree - Expand and Collapse randomly - has a mind of |
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Is it me or just my video card?
Every (nearly every) time I reposition a component in the assembly tree.
The tree inexplicably expands and shifts (display) position. I have to go
hunting for the last position I was working at. As Well, all (or most) the
subassemblies I had neatly collapsed are now expanded. Hunting for my last
position in the tree is very time wasting and it accumulates alarmingly.
Is this a normal behaviour for this tool (Solidworks)?
What is the purpose of this action?
Can it be stopped (remedied)?
But then, It could be just me. I may not be normal and such a confusing
environment is an acceptable norm to the rest of the world.
brian
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Neville Williams
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Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:10 am Post subject:
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Go to the SWX Discussion forum http://forum.solidworks.com/swforum/
There is a big thread there titled "Badly-behaved Feature Manager tree?"
The thread was started by a SW person who looks like he has been assigned
the task of fixing it.
You cannot miss it, It's the longest thread in the User Interface Group !!
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Neville Williams
Z-Axis Design - NZ
"remove the KNOT to reply"
<BWelch@carrollhealthcare.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Is it me or just my video card?
Every (nearly every) time I reposition a component in the assembly tree.
The tree inexplicably expands and shifts (display) position. I have to go
hunting for the last position I was working at. As Well, all (or most)
the
subassemblies I had neatly collapsed are now expanded. Hunting for my last
position in the tree is very time wasting and it accumulates alarmingly.
Is this a normal behaviour for this tool (Solidworks)?
What is the purpose of this action?
Can it be stopped (remedied)?
But then, It could be just me. I may not be normal and such a confusing
environment is an acceptable norm to the rest of the world.
brian |
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BWelch@carrollhealthcare.
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Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:10 am Post subject:
Re: Assembly Tree - Expand and Collapse randomly - has a min |
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"BWelch@carrollhealthcare.com" <BWelch@carrollhealthcare.com> wrote in
news:Xns972623EFD4BCBWelchcarrollhealthc@216.196.97.131:
| Quote: | Found it. (it is a big one.)
I have my doubts about them fixing it though.
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Hey they fixed it.
Just read through the rest of the thread.
SWX Discussion forum http://forum.solidworks.com/swforum/
User Interface Group
From Mark Gibson - Oct 7 thread
"Yes, the "sub-item expanded" case was one of the first things we found and
fixed, and probably accounted for a lot of the "random" expansion. I
noticed it for components, folders, and a variety of other items."
brian
| Quote: | (Just my jaded opinion)
An issue like that is a no-brainer and any code writer worth their salt
would never release a package which behaves randomly of it's own accord.
Let alone a package which is widely used and hevealy depended upon.
My guess is that someone on the team coded the behaviour in as debugging
aid and forgot to disable it. (Bet-ya that person has moved on, heh heh)
and now they have a task of unraveling it.
brian
"Neville Williams" <neville@KNOTihug.co.nz> wrote in
news:dn8ei5$6j6$1@lust.ihug.co.nz:
Go to the SWX Discussion forum http://forum.solidworks.com/swforum/
There is a big thread there titled "Badly-behaved Feature Manager
tree?" The thread was started by a SW person who looks like he has
been assigned the task of fixing it.
You cannot miss it, It's the longest thread in the User Interface
Group !!
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BWelch@carrollhealthcare.
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Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:10 am Post subject:
Re: Assembly Tree - Expand and Collapse randomly - has a min |
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Found it. (it is a big one.)
I have my doubts about them fixing it though.
(Just my jaded opinion)
An issue like that is a no-brainer and any code writer worth their salt
would never release a package which behaves randomly of it's own accord.
Let alone a package which is widely used and hevealy depended upon.
My guess is that someone on the team coded the behaviour in as debugging
aid and forgot to disable it. (Bet-ya that person has moved on, heh heh)
and now they have a task of unraveling it.
brian
"Neville Williams" <neville@KNOTihug.co.nz> wrote in
news:dn8ei5$6j6$1@lust.ihug.co.nz:
| Quote: | Go to the SWX Discussion forum http://forum.solidworks.com/swforum/
There is a big thread there titled "Badly-behaved Feature Manager
tree?" The thread was started by a SW person who looks like he has
been assigned the task of fixing it.
You cannot miss it, It's the longest thread in the User Interface
Group !!
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BWelch@carrollhealthcare.
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Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:10 am Post subject:
Re: Assembly Tree - Expand and Collapse randomly - has a min |
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Sporkman <sporkedUNDERLINEagainMUNGE@bigfootDOT.com> wrote in
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Sporky
You are the voice of wisdom.
Aha! you may be right. The tree does behave better when mates, and sub
components are collapsed prior to any maintenance to the tree. I thought I
had a sense about that but never put it together.
I just tried it out and that seems to be a factor.
1. - I collapsed all the first level components (leaving some of the second
and third level components expanded), tried a rebuild and the tree
expanded. Collapsed the tree and then repositioned a component and the tree
expanded.
2. - I collapsed all items of each component of each subassembly and
repeated the experiment. The tree remained stable.
3. - I expanded some of the mates and sub-components in one subassembly and
repeated. This time the tree remained stable.
It would seem that the tree is trainable. (artificial inteligence???)
Anyway that's probably why I didn't notice a real pattern before. the darn
thing is unpredictable.
Thanks for the feed back.
brian
| Quote: | That's "normal" behavior, in my own experience. Frustrating!! But
not one of more major beefs I have with the software. I've learned
it's less likely if (when collapsing the tree) you manually collapse
the Mates in all the components that are shown with Mates listed. But
it's quirky even then.
'Sporky'
"BWelch@carrollhealthcare.com" wrote:
Is it me or just my video card?
Every (nearly every) time I reposition a component in the assembly
tree. The tree inexplicably expands and shifts (display) position. I
have to go hunting for the last position I was working at. As Well,
all (or most) the subassemblies I had neatly collapsed are now
expanded. Hunting for my last position in the tree is very time
wasting and it accumulates alarmingly.
Is this a normal behaviour for this tool (Solidworks)?
What is the purpose of this action?
Can it be stopped (remedied)?
But then, It could be just me. I may not be normal and such a
confusing environment is an acceptable norm to the rest of the world.
brian |
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Sporkman
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Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:10 am Post subject:
Re: Assembly Tree - Expand and Collapse randomly - has a min |
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That's "normal" behavior, in my own experience. Frustrating!! But not
one of more major beefs I have with the software. I've learned it's
less likely if (when collapsing the tree) you manually collapse the
Mates in all the components that are shown with Mates listed. But it's
quirky even then.
'Sporky'
"BWelch@carrollhealthcare.com" wrote:
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Is it me or just my video card?
Every (nearly every) time I reposition a component in the assembly tree.
The tree inexplicably expands and shifts (display) position. I have to go
hunting for the last position I was working at. As Well, all (or most) the
subassemblies I had neatly collapsed are now expanded. Hunting for my last
position in the tree is very time wasting and it accumulates alarmingly.
Is this a normal behaviour for this tool (Solidworks)?
What is the purpose of this action?
Can it be stopped (remedied)?
But then, It could be just me. I may not be normal and such a confusing
environment is an acceptable norm to the rest of the world.
brian |
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rider89
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Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:10 pm Post subject:
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swx has seemingly always liked to have maximum motion on their screens, even
though
this is a major hit to productivity. the more things dance around the
screen, the better
they like it.
bill
<BWelch@carrollhealthcare.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Is it me or just my video card?
Every (nearly every) time I reposition a component in the assembly tree.
The tree inexplicably expands and shifts (display) position. I have to go
hunting for the last position I was working at. As Well, all (or most)
the
subassemblies I had neatly collapsed are now expanded. Hunting for my last
position in the tree is very time wasting and it accumulates alarmingly.
Is this a normal behaviour for this tool (Solidworks)?
What is the purpose of this action?
Can it be stopped (remedied)?
But then, It could be just me. I may not be normal and such a confusing
environment is an acceptable norm to the rest of the world.
brian |
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