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matt
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Sat Dec 03, 2005 1:10 am Post subject:
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I'm putting together a presentation on selection methods among other
things, and thought I'd check for ideas with the newsgroup.
What are your favorite selection methods?
- select through transparency (using shift)
- loop selection
- inside loop
- open loop
- tangent loop
- partial loop
- window selection / crossing window selection
- selection filter
- invert selection
- select chain
- advanced assembly selection
matt
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Sporkman
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Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:10 pm Post subject:
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matt wrote:
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I'm putting together a presentation on selection methods among other
things, and thought I'd check for ideas with the newsgroup.
What are your favorite selection methods?
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I'm glad you asked . . . because I learned something about loop
selection.
But basically I use window/crossing and selection filter, with selection
of transparent components using Shift. That last is very handy. I do a
lot of machine assemblies where I want to view insides by making parts
transparent from time to time.
Hey, I sent you a personal email with an unrelated question. Gimme a
holler (via email).
'Sporky' |
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Kevin Silbert
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Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:10 pm Post subject:
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Do our favorites have to be on the list? I like the newish Select Other
tool... Click faces that are in the way, even if they're not in the area you
clicked originally, then you can use edge selection tools on the
previously-hidden edges.
Of course they all take some thinkin to remember when to use shift and/or
CTRL!
-Kevin
"matt" <m_lombard@ver_zon.not> wrote in message
news:MPG.1dfab6d56a6170d1989751@news.verizon.net...
| Quote: | I'm putting together a presentation on selection methods among other
things, and thought I'd check for ideas with the newsgroup.
What are your favorite selection methods?
- select through transparency (using shift)
- loop selection
- inside loop
- open loop
- tangent loop
- partial loop
- window selection / crossing window selection
- selection filter
- invert selection
- select chain
- advanced assembly selection
matt |
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Sporkman
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Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:10 pm Post subject:
Re: Selection Methods |
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I sent it to dezignstuff.com, and looking back the address looks just
the same as the others I sent, except that I put "Matt Lombard" in
quotes before the email address, but the actual address is between <>
symbols which makes what comes before basically invisible to email
clients.
matt wrote:
....(clip)...
| Quote: | (I still never received your original email, but I got the copy of it in
the second one you sent. Did you send the original to @verizon.net or
@dezignstuff.com?) |
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matt
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Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:10 pm Post subject:
Re: Selection Methods |
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In article <4391F855.E409E6ED@bigfootDOT.com>,
sporkedUNDERLINEagainMUNGE@bigfootDOT.com says...
| Quote: | Yeh, it seems more awkward than earlier, but I still vote for it as
being one of the most useful selection features. I should have noted
that I use it all the time, especially for Mating in Assemblies.
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I have a part with an extrude, a cut and a pattern. If I Select Other
on the front face, I get a face listed, then the name of the body, then
the back hidden face. If I Select Other on an edge with another edge
behind it, I get two edges listed without a way to know which is which.
I guess it's an advantage that you can select bodies from the Select
Other list. I probably wouldn't mind it if I took some time to figure
out what it does.
(I still never received your original email, but I got the copy of it in
the second one you sent. Did you send the original to @verizon.net or
@dezignstuff.com?) |
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Sporkman
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Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:10 pm Post subject:
Re: Selection Methods |
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matt wrote:
| Quote: | You know, I just can't get the hang of the new Select Other. . . . (clip) . . .
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Yeh, it seems more awkward than earlier, but I still vote for it as
being one of the most useful selection features. I should have noted
that I use it all the time, especially for Mating in Assemblies.
'Sporky'
Answered your email reply, by the way -- seems like your mail receipt is
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matt
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Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:10 pm Post subject:
Re: Selection Methods |
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Hey, Kevin!
Good to hear from you.
You know, I just can't get the hang of the new Select Other. I find I
lose patience with it almost immediately and either hide parts or rotate
and squint through a crack in the assembly to find the face I want. The
old way seemed clunkier, but I knew how to get what I wanted with it.
It always seems like the face I want turns out to be the last one in the
list, except when I remember that rule and then it turns out to be in
some random place in the middle of the list.
Do you have any hints for clumsy / lazy folk like me who haven't figured
it out yet to its best advantage?
Thanks,
Matt
In article <Me6dnSE-QdxPRgzeRVn-iA@comcast.com>, kwsilbert9667
_REMOVE_@comcast.net says...
| Quote: | Do our favorites have to be on the list? I like the newish Select Other
tool... Click faces that are in the way, even if they're not in the area you
clicked originally, then you can use edge selection tools on the
previously-hidden edges.
Of course they all take some thinkin to remember when to use shift and/or
CTRL!
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Kevin Silbert
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Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:10 am Post subject:
Re: Selection Methods |
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Matt,
It sounds like you may be trying to use it like the previous Select Other
tool, when it really is so different it should maybe be named something new
like Hide Faces. I have the best luck thinking of it as a quick way to hide
some faces, letting me dig into whats underneath. The list box is the least
important part of the tool for me; only used when two faces are the same
size and coincident and I can't tell which one I'm lookin at on the screen.
I rarely use Select Other on edges, and almost never if they're in direct
line with each other. It is nice to use it to hide a big face and pick
edges underneath, however. And as Sporkman mentioned, it's great for
mating, particularly when your previous mate has made a bolt disappear into
the inside of a big part. Just keep right-clicking big faces until your
tiny part appears, then pick anything on the part you want.
Anyway, enough lecturing. Good luck with your presentation!
-Kevin
"matt" <m_lombard@ver_zon.not> wrote in message
news:MPG.1dfbb7dc39afef6a989752@news.verizon.net...
| Quote: | Hey, Kevin!
Good to hear from you.
You know, I just can't get the hang of the new Select Other. I find I
lose patience with it almost immediately and either hide parts or rotate
and squint through a crack in the assembly to find the face I want. The
old way seemed clunkier, but I knew how to get what I wanted with it.
It always seems like the face I want turns out to be the last one in the
list, except when I remember that rule and then it turns out to be in
some random place in the middle of the list.
Do you have any hints for clumsy / lazy folk like me who haven't figured
it out yet to its best advantage?
Thanks,
Matt
In article <Me6dnSE-QdxPRgzeRVn-iA@comcast.com>, kwsilbert9667
_REMOVE_@comcast.net says...
Do our favorites have to be on the list? I like the newish Select Other
tool... Click faces that are in the way, even if they're not in the area
you
clicked originally, then you can use edge selection tools on the
previously-hidden edges.
Of course they all take some thinkin to remember when to use shift and/or
CTRL!
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Wayne Tiffany
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Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:10 pm Post subject:
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Ok, so now I get to ask what I am doing wrong such that I have never really
liked this new version. I do a RMB/Select other and get the box. I do a
RMB on faces that I don't want and they go hidden. Fine. So now I see the
one that I want and I am looking directly at it because I have hidden the
stuff over it. I do a left-click on it, and I get some other face selected
on the part that I had already hidden. What am I doing wrong????????
WT
"Kevin Silbert" <kwsilbert9667_REMOVE_@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:z4adnd328rgFmQjeRVn-vg@comcast.com...
| Quote: | Matt,
It sounds like you may be trying to use it like the previous Select Other
tool, when it really is so different it should maybe be named something
new like Hide Faces. I have the best luck thinking of it as a quick way
to hide some faces, letting me dig into whats underneath. The list box is
the least important part of the tool for me; only used when two faces are
the same size and coincident and I can't tell which one I'm lookin at on
the screen. I rarely use Select Other on edges, and almost never if
they're in direct line with each other. It is nice to use it to hide a
big face and pick edges underneath, however. And as Sporkman mentioned,
it's great for mating, particularly when your previous mate has made a
bolt disappear into the inside of a big part. Just keep right-clicking
big faces until your tiny part appears, then pick anything on the part you
want.
Anyway, enough lecturing. Good luck with your presentation!
-Kevin
"matt" <m_lombard@ver_zon.not> wrote in message
news:MPG.1dfbb7dc39afef6a989752@news.verizon.net...
Hey, Kevin!
Good to hear from you.
You know, I just can't get the hang of the new Select Other. I find I
lose patience with it almost immediately and either hide parts or rotate
and squint through a crack in the assembly to find the face I want. The
old way seemed clunkier, but I knew how to get what I wanted with it.
It always seems like the face I want turns out to be the last one in the
list, except when I remember that rule and then it turns out to be in
some random place in the middle of the list.
Do you have any hints for clumsy / lazy folk like me who haven't figured
it out yet to its best advantage?
Thanks,
Matt
In article <Me6dnSE-QdxPRgzeRVn-iA@comcast.com>, kwsilbert9667
_REMOVE_@comcast.net says...
Do our favorites have to be on the list? I like the newish Select Other
tool... Click faces that are in the way, even if they're not in the area
you
clicked originally, then you can use edge selection tools on the
previously-hidden edges.
Of course they all take some thinkin to remember when to use shift
and/or
CTRL!
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Wayne Tiffany
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Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:10 pm Post subject:
Re: Selection Methods |
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SW2005 SP5.0
I have seen it fail almost all the time for me, but I don't use that portion
of it much since it doesn't work well. I usually find that the way that I
work, my desired face is the second from the bottom in the list. I run the
cursor over it to make sure and then select it there.
Matt, the issue is that a face that is hidden by RMB is still selected with
the LMB click, rather than the one that is still showing and was under the
cursor at the time of the click.
WT
"Dale Dunn" <daledunnSCRATCH@jamestool.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97249367F5C65daledunnatjamestoolc@65.24.3.139...
| Quote: | In the first few releases since the new select other method showed up,
there was a problem where sometimes a face hidden by select other could
still be selected if you click on-screen where the face had been. IIRC,
this was somewhere around 05 sp1 & 2. I haven't seen the problem in a
while., Also, I never noticed a correlation to any circumstances which
would reliably trigger it. Usually, it worked normally. |
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Dale Dunn
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Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:10 pm Post subject:
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In the first few releases since the new select other method showed up,
there was a problem where sometimes a face hidden by select other could
still be selected if you click on-screen where the face had been. IIRC,
this was somewhere around 05 sp1 & 2. I haven't seen the problem in a
while., Also, I never noticed a correlation to any circumstances which
would reliably trigger it. Usually, it worked normally. |
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Dale Dunn
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Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:10 pm Post subject:
Re: Selection Methods |
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| Quote: | I get some other face selected on the part that I had already hidden.
What am I doing wrong????????
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You're using a feature with a known bug. Long ago I started mousing over
the items in the list and watching for the highlight because I found it
faster than drilling down and selecting (and partially because of the bug). |
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matt
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Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:10 pm Post subject:
Re: Selection Methods |
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In article <Xns97247C401E255daledunnatjamestoolc@65.24.3.143>,
daledunnSCRATCH@jamestool.com says...
| Quote: | I get some other face selected on the part that I had already hidden.
What am I doing wrong????????
You're using a feature with a known bug. Long ago I started mousing over
the items in the list and watching for the highlight because I found it
faster than drilling down and selecting (and partially because of the bug).
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Dale,
Could you describe that bug in more detail?
Matt |
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