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neil
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:10 pm    Post subject: OT- MS Visual Studio Express Reply with quote

Can someone who knows more about such things please give me an opinion as to
the usefulness of the express versions recently made available for free. I
know some of the folks who read here have excellent programming skills....
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/
I was considering the web dev and c# versions however the download for the
manual installs are ~500mb each (necessary to put them on cd) so possibly it
is not worth the trouble if they are too feature restricted.
thanks
neil

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neil
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:10 pm    Post subject: Re: OT- MS Visual Studio Express Reply with quote

wrong group obviously :of)
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Markku Lehtola
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:10 pm    Post subject: Re: OT- MS Visual Studio Express Reply with quote

neil wrote:
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Can someone who knows more about such things please give me an opinion as to
the usefulness of the express versions recently made available for free. I
know some of the folks who read here have excellent programming skills....
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/
I was considering the web dev and c# versions however the download for the
manual installs are ~500mb each (necessary to put them on cd) so possibly it
is not worth the trouble if they are too feature restricted.
thanks
neil



I tried Express VERY shortly, seemed to be quite ok, but there were
problems with pc that had also VB6 installed (so I uninstalled it really
fast) also SW API support told me that they had problems with older .Net
and newest VS when both were installed.

My guess is that you don't get that much answers for you question
because MS is not yelling that much out there "hey, we have this free
version available"...so there isn't that much users either. My other
guess is that, as you can read from various resources, new VS is quite
buggy, VB6 is still kicking ass.

But...that kind of package of tools for free...not bad.

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regards

Markku Lehtola

www.markkulehtola.net

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Jonathan Anderson
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:10 pm    Post subject: Re: OT- MS Visual Studio Express Reply with quote

I don't really know what restrictions there are. You should try to
attend one of Microsoft's rollout events where they're handing out free
copies of visual stuido.

http://www.microsoft.com/events/2005launchevents/default.mspx
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Bob Hanson
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 9:10 pm    Post subject: Re: OT- MS Visual Studio Express Reply with quote

Using the Visual Studio .NET tools is the future and very powerful when
compared to VB6.0 or VC++ 6.0.
The ability to generate web apps along with winforms with these tools
is awesome!

We have been developing with .NET since Sept. 2000 and it gets better
with each new release.

Best Regards,

Bob Hanson
Senior Solutions Provider
Centare Group Ltd.
www.centare.com
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neil
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 9:10 pm    Post subject: Re: OT- MS Visual Studio Express Reply with quote

I have been looking at some of the video tutorials listed in the resources
and it seems pretty cool to me. Probably will end up downloading one or two
of the Express editions.
It seems like I could make a small but functional website fairly
readily....with a bit of artistic sense in the layout and colour scheme it
should look ok.
I am not really 'into' programming...so many things to do....but I would
like to learn more. Which do you think would be the better to/most useful to
know of VB, C#, C++ for general purposes? My current knowledge is limited to
Basic and Python.
thanks
neil
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Bob Hanson
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:10 pm    Post subject: Re: OT- MS Visual Studio Express Reply with quote

The language versus speed issue no longer exists in .NET so if you are
most comfortable looking at Basic syntax, VB.NET would be the closest
match or if more comfortable with C or C++ syntax typically C# is then
selected.

Best regards,

Bob Hanson
Senior Solutions Provider
Centare Group Ltd.
www.centare.com
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