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Blasttiod
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Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:10 pm Post subject:
P4 2800, 1GB Ram, 30gb Hard drive Solid Works 2006 runs real |
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Our SolidWorks CAD drawer is complaining that his machine is running
really slow when he has about 4-6 drawings open at once. The tech guy
said that when opening complex drawings the CPU is running at 100%, Ram
being used is only about 600MB, and theres 8GB free left on the Hard
Drive.
It seems that when a drawing is opening the Hard Drive is going mad, so
could it be that the HD performance is slowing things down.
I've heard if we increase the Page File this will make a difference.
What can we do with either the Solidworks software or Windows to speed
things up.
Or
Is it the PC thats just to slow and needs an upgrade.
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Kvick
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Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:10 pm Post subject:
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Blasttiod wrote:
| Quote: | Our SolidWorks CAD drawer is complaining that his machine is running
really slow when he has about 4-6 drawings open at once. The tech guy
said that when opening complex drawings the CPU is running at 100%, Ram
being used is only about 600MB, and theres 8GB free left on the Hard
Drive.
It seems that when a drawing is opening the Hard Drive is going mad, so
could it be that the HD performance is slowing things down.
I've heard if we increase the Page File this will make a difference.
What can we do with either the Solidworks software or Windows to speed
things up.
Or
Is it the PC thats just to slow and needs an upgrade.
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You dont mention your GPU... Grapchic card... it's crucial part of the
SW performance... |
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TOP
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Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:10 pm Post subject:
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It would be really helpful to know which model MacIntosh he is running
on.
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Blasttiod
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Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:10 pm Post subject:
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| Sorry:- Windows 2000 SP4 |
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TOP
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Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:10 pm Post subject:
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Oops, me bad. It's in the subject line.
P4 2800, 1GB Ram, 30gb Hard drive Solid Works 2006 runs really slow
First off, we can attribute a major portion of the slow performance to:
1. Intel processor. A P4 2.8Ghz cpu is way out of date. (Dual core
AMD64 2X 4800+ is about state of the art and 2006 should take advantage
of the dual core in drawings.)
2. Pagefile setup. Your pagefile may not be setup right. See the SW
website for instructions on how to set this up.
3. Insufficient RAM. Make sure you have enough RAM. 2GB should be
enough.
4. Fragmented hard drive. Clean out temp and defrag hard drive.
5. Poor assembly technique. Clean up your assemblies for performance.
See SWW presentation on assembly performance.
6. SW. SW has steadily degraded performance over the years.
7. Not hiding section, detail and other high overhead views when not in
use.
Now some perspective:
I run one of the fastest systems on the newsgroup and it took me an
hour to place 5 dimensions on a complex large assembly detail view two
days ago.
And look up XPTC and read it before implementing it. |
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Brian
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Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:10 pm Post subject:
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If windows task manager performance tabs values result in "commit
charge" > physical memory total-available, then the system is paging to disk
and more ram will be a big help.
"Blasttiod" <blasttiod@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1133533251.597701.204030@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | The GPU is a Nvidia 64MB Quadro 4 580 XGL, Direct X version is 7.0. The
page file says 523MB used / 1903MB available.
The hard drive has already been defraged.
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Dale Dunn
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Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:10 pm Post subject:
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Kvick <artokvick@jippii.fi> wrote in news:%1Xjf.201$uc.65@read3.inet.fi:
| Quote: | Blasttiod wrote:
Our SolidWorks CAD drawer is complaining that his machine is running
really slow when he has about 4-6 drawings open at once.
You dont mention your GPU... Grapchic card... it's crucial part of the
SW performance...
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Quite right Arto. Based on the description of the problem, I'll bet there's
a Radeon or GeForce in there.
Blast, The problem wit hthese gaming cards is the lack of support for a
unified z buffer. Every OpenGL window will use it's own z buffer, which
quickly runs the video card out of memory. The Quadro (not NVS) or FireGL
cards will not have this problem. |
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Blasttiod
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Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:10 pm Post subject:
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The GPU is a Nvidia 64MB Quadro 4 580 XGL, Direct X version is 7.0. The
page file says 523MB used / 1903MB available.
The hard drive has already been defraged. |
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Keith Streich
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Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:10 pm Post subject:
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Here is TOP's original message.
----- Original Message -----
From: "TOP" <kellnerp@cbd.net>
Newsgroups: comp.cad.solidworks
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 8:41 PM
Subject: TIP of the DAY: Keeping XP Humming
| Quote: | I came across this link. In it you will find a downloadable pdf. I
recommend printing it and putting it in a binder. It contains just
about anything you might want to know about setting up XP and keeping
it humming. It is written so the average Joe/Josephine can understand
it.
http://www.tweakguides.com/XPTC.html
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TOP
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Sat Dec 03, 2005 1:10 am Post subject:
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The next thing is a visit to the benchmark doctor.
http://www.engtran.com/SWBM001.html
Run Ship in a bottle and STAR2.1. Let us know what you get.
A graphics card doesn't really help with drawings that much. Drawings
are 2D and most of the heavy lifting is done in the CPU. The GeForce
issue won't crop up unless you have had a lot of SW windows open. Since
you have a Quadro the point is moot.
Also, make sure you have your journal file set to a local disk in
Tools/Options/File locations. |
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Dale Dunn
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Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:10 pm Post subject:
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Another thought on the Quadro card, just something to check: It is possible
to disable the unified z buffer through the OpenGL settings of the nVidia
drivers. Make sure the "cutom OpenGL application setting" is set to
Solidworks.
I only mention this because the description of the problem sounds so much
like a unified z buffer problem. Granted, this doesn't seem to make sense
for 2d drawings... |
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Frank Hausman
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Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:10 pm Post subject:
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Dale Dunn wrote:
| Quote: | Kvick <artokvick@jippii.fi> wrote in news:%1Xjf.201$uc.65@read3.inet.fi:
Blasttiod wrote:
Our SolidWorks CAD drawer is complaining that his machine is running
really slow when he has about 4-6 drawings open at once.
You dont mention your GPU... Grapchic card... it's crucial part of the
SW performance...
Quite right Arto. Based on the description of the problem, I'll bet there's
a Radeon or GeForce in there.
Blast, The problem wit hthese gaming cards is the lack of support for a
unified z buffer. Every OpenGL window will use it's own z buffer, which
quickly runs the video card out of memory. The Quadro (not NVS) or FireGL
cards will not have this problem.
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I assume you DON'T mean the FireGL 8800 |
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Arto Kvick
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Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:10 pm Post subject:
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Blasttiod wrote:
| Quote: | The GPU is a Nvidia 64MB Quadro 4 580 XGL, Direct X version is 7.0. The
page file says 523MB used / 1903MB available.
The hard drive has already been defraged.
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GPU Drivers are also as crucial... and mayby most recent directx helps
also (cause the most recent drivers are ment for it) |
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Dale Dunn
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Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:10 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | I assume you DON'T mean the FireGL 8800
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Does the 8800 have trouble with this? |
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