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Jason L
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Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:10 am Post subject:
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I have two drawing views that are not projection or auxilary. I need to show
arrows at an offset datum to show the viewing direction.
With 2000i I believed I just created a cross section through that datum in
space and that way I could show arrows and the other view was not effected.
WF2 won't let me create an section if it doesn't pass through any geometry.
How do get around this?
Thanks in advance.
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Jason L
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Fri Jun 17, 2005 4:10 pm Post subject:
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Bottom line is I need to show arrows for a viewing plane and not a
cross-section.
"Jason L" <tectranbrake@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I have two drawing views that are not projection or auxilary. I need to
show arrows at an offset datum to show the viewing direction.
With 2000i I believed I just created a cross section through that datum in
space and that way I could show arrows and the other view was not
effected.
WF2 won't let me create an section if it doesn't pass through any
geometry. How do get around this?
Thanks in advance.
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Jeff Howard
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Fri Jun 17, 2005 10:21 pm Post subject:
Re: i have another Pro/BLEM |
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| Quote: | WF2 won't let me create an section if it doesn't pass through any
geometry. How do get around this?
Bottom line is I need to show arrows for a viewing plane and not a
cross-section
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Have you tried creating the XSec in the model?
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Jason L
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Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:10 am Post subject:
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Jeff,
The problem is that you can't create an xsec if it doen't pass through any
geometry. I just needed arrows to show a viewing plane. It would have been
fairly easy if the views were regular auxilary views and not rotated 90
degrees. You would just create the auxilary view and show arrows on the view
you created it from. But say you needed to rotate the auxilary view...then
it looses all relationship and the arrows as well. I got around this by
creating the views I needed and auxilary views to create the arrows...then I
erased the auxilary views and selected the option to keep the arrows related
to it.
So now my views say VIEW A-A but really have no relation to the arrows on
the referencing view.
"Jeff Howard" <jeff4136@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | WF2 won't let me create an section if it doesn't pass through any
geometry. How do get around this?
Bottom line is I need to show arrows for a viewing plane and not a
cross-section
Have you tried creating the XSec in the model? |
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Jeff Howard
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Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:10 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | The problem is that you can't create
an xsec if it doen't pass through any
geometry. ...
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Hi, Jason. I'm pretty slow and am probably missing something, but do know
that:
1) You can create an XSec defined by a plane that does not cut any model
geometry and that
2) arrows can be shown for that XSec in any view where that plane is
perpendicular to the view direction (hope I've got that part correct).
Are you seeing something to the contrary?
You can also Add Arrows for Projected views, including Auxiliary views.
(I'm getting lost on rotating the Aux views.)
If you can't get what you want might try taking it to a forum that allows
attachments (mcadcentral, etc.), sketch up a simple illustration / example
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David Janes
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Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:08 am Post subject:
Re: i have another Pro/BLEM |
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| Quote: | "Jason L" <tectranbrake@yahoo.com> wrote I have two drawing views that are not
projection or auxilary. I need to show arrows at an offset datum to show the
viewing direction.
With 2000i I believed I just created a cross section through that datum in space
and that way I could show arrows and the other view was not effected.
WF2 won't let me create an section if it doesn't pass through any geometry. How
do get around this?
I don't know why you'd want to create section, except as some kind of dorky |
workaround. Why not just create view arrows which you can do for projected and
auxilliary views. For auxilliary views, you ckeck the box that says 'Show
projection arrows'. This shows view arrows, pointing at the parent view, with the
view name instead of 'Section A-A' which is what you get with sections. For
ordinary projected views, highlight the projected view, RMB 'Add arrows' and view
arrows get placed by the parent view. In both cases, you can drag these arrows to
position them anywhere on the viewing plane, in the projection direction.
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Jason L
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Tue Jun 21, 2005 12:10 am Post subject:
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Jeff,
Somehow I don't remember this being a problem with 2000i, but Wildfire 2.0
won't even let me create the xsec in the model since the datum is offset
from the part and doesn't go through any geometry.
As for the aux view....imagine creating an aux view at a plane that is 45
degrees. You want the arrows to reference the parent view on that 45 degree
angle. But then you want to show the aux view at 90 degrees with a note
under it saying "view rotated 90 degrees". As far as I know...it can't be
done because you would have to make it a general view and this would blow
away your arrows.
"Jeff Howard" <jeff4136@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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The problem is that you can't create
an xsec if it doen't pass through any
geometry. ...
Hi, Jason. I'm pretty slow and am probably missing something, but do know
that:
1) You can create an XSec defined by a plane that does not cut any model
geometry and that
2) arrows can be shown for that XSec in any view where that plane is
perpendicular to the view direction (hope I've got that part correct).
Are you seeing something to the contrary?
You can also Add Arrows for Projected views, including Auxiliary views.
(I'm getting lost on rotating the Aux views.)
If you can't get what you want might try taking it to a forum that allows
attachments (mcadcentral, etc.), sketch up a simple illustration / example
and post it.
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Jeff Howard
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Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:27 am Post subject:
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Ok, got it.
Creating sections outside model geometry does seem to be a bit of a
squirrel, though I'd never noticed any problems until concentrating on it.
Definite bug material here and it doesn't seem to be related to my modified
template files (a simplified version of which I emailed to you) as I
thought. What does seem to do the trick is re-booting the computer
(re-start Pro/E no-go, tried a few times). Dizzy and worn out. Maybe more
later. 8~)
"Jason L" <tectranbrake@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Jeff,
Somehow I don't remember this being a problem with 2000i, but Wildfire
2.0
won't even let me create the xsec in the model since the datum is offset
from the part and doesn't go through any geometry.
As for the aux view....imagine creating an aux view at a plane that is 45
degrees. You want the arrows to reference the parent view on that 45
degree
angle. But then you want to show the aux view at 90 degrees with a note
under it saying "view rotated 90 degrees". As far as I know...it can't
be
done because you would have to make it a general view and this would blow
away your arrows. |
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Jason L
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Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:03 pm Post subject:
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David,
It definately is some dorky workaround...I am copying an old hand drawn
print and my company wants and exact duplicate in cad. That is why I can't
simply create an aux view and show arrows. The parent view has to be on a
different viewing angle than the child view, with a note saying how much the
view has been rotated.
"David Janes" <djanes@cox.net.invawib> wrote in message
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| Quote: | "Jason L" <tectranbrake@yahoo.com> wrote I have two drawing views that
are not projection or auxilary. I need to show arrows at an offset datum
to show the viewing direction.
With 2000i I believed I just created a cross section through that datum
in space and that way I could show arrows and the other view was not
effected.
WF2 won't let me create an section if it doesn't pass through any
geometry. How do get around this?
I don't know why you'd want to create section, except as some kind of
dorky workaround. Why not just create view arrows which you can do for
projected and auxilliary views. For auxilliary views, you ckeck the box
that says 'Show projection arrows'. This shows view arrows, pointing at
the parent view, with the view name instead of 'Section A-A' which is what
you get with sections. For ordinary projected views, highlight the
projected view, RMB 'Add arrows' and view arrows get placed by the parent
view. In both cases, you can drag these arrows to position them anywhere
on the viewing plane, in the projection direction.
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David Janes
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David Janes
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Wed Jun 22, 2005 5:50 am Post subject:
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"Jason L" <tectranbrake@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | David,
It definately is some dorky workaround...I am copying an old hand drawn print
and my company wants and exact duplicate in cad. That is why I can't simply
create an aux view and show arrows. The parent view has to be on a different
viewing angle than the child view, with a note saying how much the view has been
rotated.
First, I'll go along with Jeff ~ a picture's worth unimaginable words, especially |
when words fail in the face of a difficult or unusual visualization problem.
Second, don't underrate the orientating capabilities of Pro/e ~ they're enormous.
Make good friends with 'View>Orient>Reorient' and the reorientation types of
Preferences and Dynamic Reorient. With these, you can reorient your model at any
angle in 3d space. No appropriate geometry is available? Just create some datum
geometry. Create one view, then use that to create/reorient your second. If these
views are not orthogonal, so much the better. When you have a view, give it a name
and save it. When you have both views created and saved in your model, your
drawing problem is solved. Use the Saved views to create/place drawing views. What
about the arrows. You're probably out of luck for the buit in arrows. But, so
what, these are just conveniences. It's the simplest thing, in drawing mode, to
fudge those in with the drafting utilities. Line weights and styles are also
easily adjustable.
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Walther Mathieu
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Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:10 am Post subject:
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David Janes wrote:
| Quote: | It's the simplest thing, in drawing mode, to
fudge those in with the drafting utilities. Line weights and styles are also
easily adjustable.
Yup, and donīt forget to create a point at some model edge, |
itīs useful for attaching that hand-drawn arrow to...
ao it wonīt wander around each time the drawing is retrieved.
Walther |
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Jeff Howard
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Wed Jun 22, 2005 11:26 pm Post subject:
Re: i have another Pro/BLEM |
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| Quote: | WF2 won't let me create an
section if it doesn't pass through
any geometry. How do get around this?
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Not sure anything more definitive than what's already passed will come of
it but you might follow
http://www.mcadcentral.com/proe/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27647&TPN=1 |
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Jason L
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Fri Jun 24, 2005 4:10 pm Post subject:
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Jeff,
Now in a different drawing I can create xsections offset from
geometery......definately a bug....I see what you are saying. However, I
still can't figure out if there is a way to create an aux view and the
rotate the view while keeping the arrows. My guess is it can't be done
unless someone shows me step by step otherwise. Thanks...all your help was
greatly appreciated.
Jason
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