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shaun
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Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:10 am Post subject:
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Does anyone know how to get Proe to output the time it estimates a tool
path will take. I want to see the difference between, feeds speeds,
step over all the fun stuff. Thanks
David J where are you?
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David Janes
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Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:36 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | "shaun" <shaunt@pmp-elcajon.com> wrote
Does anyone know how to get Proe to output the time it estimates a tool
path will take. I want to see the difference between, feeds speeds,
step over all the fun stuff. Thanks
David J where are you?
Yeah, Shuan, I'm here. But it's been a while since I did any Pro/NC stuff. I |
thought I remembered you could get a rough estimate out of Pro/NC-CHECK or out of
Verify. But I don't see it anywhere. Where I do see it, you won't like. It's
definitely buried in an add-on module called Pro/PROCESS for Mfg.
I mean this is just the meanest, stupidest, stick-it-to-the-loyal-customer thing
imaginable: you have a feed of 3ipm and a cutter path of 3 feet which is contained
in the CL data (36"/3ipm=12 minutes, what's the big deal, PTC!). Why does it take
a special module to tell you an estimated time!?! I really can't believe it. Is
this the ultimate in stupid, narrow minded, short sighted greed or what? Hey, PTC,
make it easy on these guys! give them to the tools they need to do everyday,
obvious things.
David Janes |
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cad/cam/guy
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Wed Jun 08, 2005 8:10 am Post subject:
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don't you get it when you post it , like on the last line of the page
that pops up when it's done posting..
you might have to check one of those verbose //??or whatever the other
one is called... checkboxs for it to come up
This might also just be something that was on r2001 and is not there on
WF
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Stu
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Wed Jun 08, 2005 4:10 pm Post subject:
Re: Expert Machinest |
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On 7 Jun 2005 13:24:28 -0700, "shaun" <shaunt@pmp-elcajon.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Does anyone know how to get Proe to output the time it estimates a tool
path will take. I want to see the difference between, feeds speeds,
step over all the fun stuff. Thanks
David J where are you?
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Not in expert machinist, but regular NC.
Info/Manufacturing/ pick the NC sequence tab in the popup,
pick a sequence, then look in the info window.
it has all sorts of goodies, and even in expert machinist, drop out of
it into regular ProNC for this info.
see the below example:
|*********************************************|
| Machining Sequence Report |
|*********************************************|
Manufacturing Type : ASSEMBLY
Stock : 3D_TEST
Date : 08-Jun-05 09:10:53
|*********************************************|
| NC Sequence Number : 3 |
|*********************************************|
Feature ID : 7466
Feature Number : 30
Operation Name : OP010
Workcell Name : FOAMCUTTER
Workcell Type : Mill
Sequence Type : Volume Milling
Cut Mtn Feat : 7468
Axis Type : 3 Axis
Fixture Setup : FSETP0
Mill Volume : VOL2
Tool ID : 2INCH_BNE
Machining time : 4.93516 min
Retract Plane : RETRACT_PLANE
START POINT : N/A
END POINT : N/A
NCL File Name : SEQ0003
MACH CSYS : PROG_ZERO
NCSEQ CSYS : PROG_ZERO
Tool Travel Envelope:
X_MIN : -16.8552
X_MAX : 9.06292
Y_MIN : -1.16346
Y_MAX : 1.21396
Z_MIN : 2.27024
Z_MAX : 13.5
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| NC Sequence Parameters |
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TOOL_ID 2INCH_BNE
NCL_FILE -
PRE_MACHINING_FILE -
POST_MACHINING_FILE -
ROUGH_OPTION ROUGH_ONLY
SCAN_TYPE FOLLOW_HARDWALLS
CUT_TYPE CLIMB
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shaun
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Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:09 pm Post subject:
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Thanks guys!
David you are still the man. |
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David Janes
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Thu Jun 09, 2005 6:03 am Post subject:
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"Stu" <Stu@kapco-tool.com> wrote in message news:ehrda1lp3ajpscmcp91m47pp9ag3dbloo9@4ax.com...
On 7 Jun 2005 13:24:28 -0700, "shaun" <shaunt@pmp-elcajon.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Does anyone know how to get Proe to output the time it estimates a tool
path will take. I want to see the difference between, feeds speeds,
step over all the fun stuff. Thanks
David J where are you?
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Not in expert machinist, but regular NC.
Info/Manufacturing/ pick the NC sequence tab in the popup,
pick a sequence, then look in the info window.
it has all sorts of goodies, and even in expert machinist, drop out of
it into regular ProNC for this info.
see the below example:
|*********************************************|
| Machining Sequence Report |
|*********************************************|
Manufacturing Type : ASSEMBLY
Stock : 3D_TEST
Date : 08-Jun-05 09:10:53
|*********************************************|
| NC Sequence Number : 3 |
|*********************************************|
Feature ID : 7466
Feature Number : 30
Operation Name : OP010
Workcell Name : FOAMCUTTER
Workcell Type : Mill
Sequence Type : Volume Milling
Cut Mtn Feat : 7468
Axis Type : 3 Axis
Fixture Setup : FSETP0
Mill Volume : VOL2
Tool ID : 2INCH_BNE
Machining time : 4.93516 min
Retract Plane : RETRACT_PLANE
START POINT : N/A
END POINT : N/A
NCL File Name : SEQ0003
MACH CSYS : PROG_ZERO
NCSEQ CSYS : PROG_ZERO
Tool Travel Envelope:
X_MIN : -16.8552
X_MAX : 9.06292
Y_MIN : -1.16346
Y_MAX : 1.21396
Z_MIN : 2.27024
Z_MAX : 13.5
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| NC Sequence Parameters |
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TOOL_ID 2INCH_BNE
NCL_FILE -
PRE_MACHINING_FILE -
POST_MACHINING_FILE -
ROUGH_OPTION ROUGH_ONLY
SCAN_TYPE FOLLOW_HARDWALLS
CUT_TYPE CLIMB
This is great! Just the Info menu, naturally! Well, it's come a long way since V19, 20, and i, which was the last time I had anything to do with Pro/MAN or Pro/NC.
BTW, can it do more than a single sequence of a single tool? Maybe a whole operation involving several tools? Or even several operations encompassing the whole program for a part? I'm wondering if you don't have to get involved with some kind of manufacturing analysis feature which accumulates all the separate sequences and operations.
David Janes |
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Stu
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Thu Jun 09, 2005 4:09 pm Post subject:
Re: Expert Machinest |
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On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 18:03:00 -0700, "David Janes"
<djanes@cox.net.invarris> wrote:
| Quote: | "Stu" <Stu@kapco-tool.com> wrote in message news:ehrda1lp3ajpscmcp91m47pp9ag3dbloo9@4ax.com...
On 7 Jun 2005 13:24:28 -0700, "shaun" <shaunt@pmp-elcajon.com> wrote:
Does anyone know how to get Proe to output the time it estimates a tool
path will take. I want to see the difference between, feeds speeds,
step over all the fun stuff. Thanks
David J where are you?
Not in expert machinist, but regular NC.
Info/Manufacturing/ pick the NC sequence tab in the popup,
pick a sequence, then look in the info window.
it has all sorts of goodies, and even in expert machinist, drop out of
it into regular ProNC for this info.
see the below example:
|*********************************************|
| Machining Sequence Report |
|*********************************************|
Manufacturing Type : ASSEMBLY
Stock : 3D_TEST
Date : 08-Jun-05 09:10:53
|*********************************************|
| NC Sequence Number : 3 |
|*********************************************|
Feature ID : 7466
Feature Number : 30
Operation Name : OP010
Workcell Name : FOAMCUTTER
Workcell Type : Mill
Sequence Type : Volume Milling
Cut Mtn Feat : 7468
Axis Type : 3 Axis
Fixture Setup : FSETP0
Mill Volume : VOL2
Tool ID : 2INCH_BNE
Machining time : 4.93516 min
Retract Plane : RETRACT_PLANE
START POINT : N/A
END POINT : N/A
NCL File Name : SEQ0003
MACH CSYS : PROG_ZERO
NCSEQ CSYS : PROG_ZERO
Tool Travel Envelope:
X_MIN : -16.8552
X_MAX : 9.06292
Y_MIN : -1.16346
Y_MAX : 1.21396
Z_MIN : 2.27024
Z_MAX : 13.5
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| NC Sequence Parameters |
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TOOL_ID 2INCH_BNE
NCL_FILE -
PRE_MACHINING_FILE -
POST_MACHINING_FILE -
ROUGH_OPTION ROUGH_ONLY
SCAN_TYPE FOLLOW_HARDWALLS
CUT_TYPE CLIMB
This is great! Just the Info menu, naturally! Well, it's come a long way since V19, 20, and i, which was the last time I had anything to do with Pro/MAN or Pro/NC.
BTW, can it do more than a single sequence of a single tool? Maybe a whole operation involving several tools? Or even several operations encompassing the whole program for a part? I'm wondering if you don't have to get involved with some kind of manufacturing analysis feature which accumulates all the separate sequences and operations.
David Janes
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The operation info isnt quite as detailed as a sequence info, but see
below for what it offers. also you'll have to info each operation. I
dont see an option to concat multple ops.:
WF3 maybe?? Which BTW is available in pre-prodction form...
|*********************************************|
| Machining Sequence Report |
|*********************************************|
Manufacturing Type : ASSEMBLY
Stock : 3D_TEST
Date : 09-Jun-05 07:05:30
Operation Name : OP010
Workcell Name : FOAMCUTTER
Workcell Type : Mill
|*********************************************|
| Tool Table Information |
|*********************************************|
Tool Tool Gauge Length
Position ID Register Comment
-------- -------- --------- -------
1 1INCH_BNE 1 1 INCH BALLNOSE 6" LONG
1 2INCH_BNE 1 2 INCH BALLNOSE 8" LONG
1 1_926_BNE 1 2 inch 12 inch long
1 1INCH_LONG_BNE 1 1 inch ,8inch long, 2inch
flute
1 1_250_BNE 1 1/4" ballnose
Status : Active
Mach Csys : PROG_ZERO
Retract Surface: RETRACT_PLANE
Machining time : 463.335 min
FROM POINT : N/A
HOME POINT : N/A
NCL File Name : 3D_TEST
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| Operation Parameters |
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TOOL_ID 1INCH_BNE
NCL_FILE 3D_TEST
PRE_MACHINING_FILE -
POST_MACHINING_FILE -
PARTNO -
RETRACT_SURF_TOL 0.1
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shaun
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Thu Jun 09, 2005 4:10 pm Post subject:
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| How do you get a hold of WF3? |
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Stu
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Thu Jun 09, 2005 4:10 pm Post subject:
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On 9 Jun 2005 08:08:31 -0700, "shaun" <shaunt@pmp-elcajon.com> wrote:
| Quote: | How do you get a hold of WF3?
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You need to be on a current maintainence contract, then you can
download it from the PTC website.
I'm sure in a month or so, you'll be able to request a CD from them.
but for now, its D/L only
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