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naturat
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Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:23 am Post subject:
Running ACAD over internet |
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We are looking into putting in an SBS server and running RDP on it. We
want to know if it is possible with AutoCAD 2004/5/6 to run on a WinXP
Pro machine behind the server from another machine connected to the
server via the RDP connection across the internet.
Putting the issue of licenses aside assuming we have the required number
of legal seats per person using ACAD, can multiple people attach to the
same machine and run ACAD via the RDP connection?
We spoke with our dealer and they seemed to think that you might be able
to via RDP but not Terminal Services and only if you have no domain. The
result was a very uncertain answer and before shelling out $8000 for a
new server that is supposed to allow this I want to know that it will
actually work.
Anyone have experience with this???
Also, can we do this with normal seat licenses of ACAD or do we need
some sort of a special network license?
Would the RDP be a good solution here or would some sort of VPN be
better? I had made the assumption that a RDP / Terminal Server was a
type of VPN, but I think there is more to it than just that.
Thanks,
-Jon
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TravisNave
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Fri Mar 11, 2005 1:01 am Post subject:
Re: Running ACAD over internet |
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| Connecting with Terminal Services has been disabled for AutoCAD 2005, so that option is out. Technically, connecting to your License Server over the Internet violates the License Agreement, which states that you are only allowed to connect on your LAN. Therefore, a VPN is your easiest solution. Using Remote Desktop is not actually running the program on the PC, like you would in a VPN situation. Though I have only read about a few problems with people using Remote Desktop to do this. I think Autodesk would recommend using a VPN. |
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Gordon Price
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Sat Mar 12, 2005 12:25 am Post subject:
Re: Running ACAD over internet |
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"TravisNave" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote in message
news:7991933.1110484933072.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum2.autodesk.com...
| Quote: | Connecting with Terminal Services has been disabled for AutoCAD 2005, so
that option is out. Technically, connecting to your License Server over
the Internet violates the License Agreement, which states that you are
only allowed to connect on your LAN. Therefore, a VPN is your easiest
solution. Using Remote Desktop is not actually running the program on the
PC, like you would in a VPN situation. Though I have only read about a
few problems with people using Remote Desktop to do this. I think
Autodesk would recommend using a VPN.
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I thought WAN connections where allowed now, as long as the remote machine
was owned by the company that ownes the server? My understanding is it is
allowed, and works well even over dialup, because the actual packets going
between AutoCAD and the License Server are really small.
Gordon
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TravisNave
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Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:56 am Post subject:
Re: Running ACAD over internet |
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| Yes, WAN is deemed okay. I guess WAN is not considered the 'raw' internet. |
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Gordon Price
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Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:59 am Post subject:
Re: Running ACAD over internet |
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"TravisNave" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote in message
news:11841611.1110578191522.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum1.autodesk.com...
| Quote: | Yes, WAN is deemed okay. I guess WAN is not considered the 'raw'
internet.
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Even a web connection is probably ok, given that the workstation ownership
requirements. I think the main issue was to keep some company from buying
100 seats, then farming out access to hundreds of part time users, for a
fee. If that is done, Autodesk wants a piece of that pie. But finally
letting a network license be used from home only made sense, just like
allowing office and home installs.
Gordon |
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jerry milana (Autodesk Co
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Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:42 am Post subject:
Re: Running ACAD over internet |
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Hi all.
Raw Internet is not OKay. A VPN connection or a RAS connection is OKay.
--
Jerry Milana,
Autodesk Consulting
"Gordon Price" <gordon(thorn)@albedoconsulting.com> wrote in message
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"TravisNave" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote in message
news:11841611.1110578191522.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum1.autodesk.com...
Yes, WAN is deemed okay. I guess WAN is not considered the 'raw'
internet.
Even a web connection is probably ok, given that the workstation ownership
requirements. I think the main issue was to keep some company from buying
100 seats, then farming out access to hundreds of part time users, for a
fee. If that is done, Autodesk wants a piece of that pie. But finally
letting a network license be used from home only made sense, just like
allowing office and home installs.
Gordon
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AlmightySR
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Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:00 pm Post subject:
Re: Running ACAD over internet |
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We currently have a Terminal server set up and run all sorts of CAD products
on it. The toughest program on the Terminal server is Revit. While we dont
really use Revit yet we have loaded some tutor revit files and stuff on it
and worked over the internet. It works great... considering its over the
internet.
"naturat" <naturat@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:42309ebc$1_2@newsprd01...
| Quote: | We are looking into putting in an SBS server and running RDP on it. We
want to know if it is possible with AutoCAD 2004/5/6 to run on a WinXP Pro
machine behind the server from another machine connected to the server via
the RDP connection across the internet.
Putting the issue of licenses aside assuming we have the required number
of legal seats per person using ACAD, can multiple people attach to the
same machine and run ACAD via the RDP connection?
We spoke with our dealer and they seemed to think that you might be able
to via RDP but not Terminal Services and only if you have no domain. The
result was a very uncertain answer and before shelling out $8000 for a new
server that is supposed to allow this I want to know that it will actually
work.
Anyone have experience with this???
Also, can we do this with normal seat licenses of ACAD or do we need some
sort of a special network license?
Would the RDP be a good solution here or would some sort of VPN be better?
I had made the assumption that a RDP / Terminal Server was a type of VPN,
but I think there is more to it than just that.
Thanks,
-Jon
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AlmightySR
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Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:01 pm Post subject:
Re: Running ACAD over internet |
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I guess that answers the question. Thank you for the info Jerry!
"jerry milana (Autodesk Consulting)" <milanaj@autodesk.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Hi all.
Raw Internet is not OKay. A VPN connection or a RAS connection is OKay.
--
Jerry Milana,
Autodesk Consulting
"Gordon Price" <gordon(thorn)@albedoconsulting.com> wrote in message
news:423214e4$1_2@newsprd01...
"TravisNave" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote in message
news:11841611.1110578191522.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum1.autodesk.com...
Yes, WAN is deemed okay. I guess WAN is not considered the 'raw'
internet.
Even a web connection is probably ok, given that the workstation
ownership requirements. I think the main issue was to keep some company
from buying 100 seats, then farming out access to hundreds of part time
users, for a fee. If that is done, Autodesk wants a piece of that pie.
But finally letting a network license be used from home only made sense,
just like allowing office and home installs.
Gordon
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Gordon Price
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Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:21 am Post subject:
Re: Running ACAD over internet |
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"jerry milana (Autodesk Consulting)" <milanaj@autodesk.com> wrote in message
news:42361361$1_1@newsprd01...
| Quote: | Hi all.
Raw Internet is not OKay. A VPN connection or a RAS connection is OKay.
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Thanks for the info. Even if it was allowed, I would never promote it. VPN
is so much more secure, and easy to set up. Makes no sense to go any other
way.
best,
Gordon |
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