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COVENANT777
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 9:59 pm Post subject:
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Alright, first off, using foul abrieviated language is just uncalled for, what r u like 12 years old. Second before giving me your dumb comments why don't you give me senario that shows your way is better. Third of all if you cant do that then SHUT UP. Thanks and have a nice day.
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SkintSubby
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:11 pm Post subject:
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I think the point of AutoCAD customization, is that everybody can set their station to work the way that suits them. I think that my way is the best way, but I know that the bloke sitting next to me does it differently. and he thinks his way is the best. As long as the end product is the same what's the difference?
Most companies I have worked for do models/ details in MS and all text etc in PS, Which is my preferred way of doing it. But I've worked in places where everything is done in MS, obviously they didn't use models though.
I know this isn't the answer to PS v MS but as long as everyone works to the same company/contract standard does it matter?
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COVENANT777
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:12 pm Post subject:
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Also genius, how the crap are you going to deal with 3D models in different views in model space and text them all? I guess paperspace is just there for your entertainment, your right, you are so amazingly right man...How you do that???
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SkintSubby
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:16 pm Post subject:
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| I said "obviously" because anyone feeling the need to brag that they were "The Master" has delusions about themselves. |
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COVENANT777
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:17 pm Post subject:
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| I agree Mark G, I'm just discussing the topic at hand which is better which is the thread basically according to the original poster. Anyways, I'm not saying that people shouldn't have there own way i know that everyone thinks there way is best. I'm just responding to the thread then to DAVE JONES who is a really cool guy, so cool he knows how to give good examples, hehe. I know not everyone will agree with me but maybe this will spark conversation of examples of senarios instead of stupid comments like Mr. Dave Jones is so good at giving. |
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COVENANT777
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:20 pm Post subject:
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| I wasn't bragging, duh! thats what the wink symbol was for ;). It was a funny joke, jeeeeez everyone is so sensative and insecure it seems. FYI.. |
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SkintSubby
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:24 pm Post subject:
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| I know :-) But other folks read these threads as well. I was just making the point that nobody knows everything...even me. |
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Dave Jones
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:41 pm Post subject:
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"COVENANT777" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I agree Mark G, I'm just discussing the topic at hand which is better
which is the thread basically according to the original poster. Anyways, I'm |
not saying that people shouldn't have there own way i know that everyone
thinks there way is best. I'm just responding to the thread then to DAVE
JONES who is a really cool guy, so cool he knows how to give good examples,
hehe. I know not everyone will agree with me but maybe this will spark
conversation of examples of senarios instead of stupid comments like Mr.
Dave Jones is so good at giving.
hey thanks! I am a cool guy...I use both methods of annotation as required
by whatever I'm doing or project I'm working on. I have no problem with
either. What I had a problem with is your attitude that annotation in PS is
the ONLY way to do it...not the case, as I think many would agree...
Dave (Mr Cool :) |
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Matt
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:05 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | Alright, first off, using foul abrieviated language is just uncalled for,
what r u like 12 years old. |
Who are you talking to?
Matt |
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Dave Jones
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:33 pm Post subject:
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"Matt" <jeg2dsign@(removethis)earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Alright, first off, using foul abrieviated language is just uncalled
for,
what r u like 12 years old.
Who are you talking to?
Matt
Matt, he was talking to me for using "WTF" in one of my posts...not much |
worse than his use of the word "crap" IMO
Dave |
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Matt
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:39 pm Post subject:
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That was the foul language?? WTF :)
The point I was looking to make was that for OUR office, it is more
efficient to note in MS. TB is xreffed in PS, but the "real" information is
in MS. But then, we do MEP, 99.99% 2D with over half the office on LT. I
can see the reasoning when dealing with 3D and if office standards are set
to annote in PS, but I too don't like all encompassing statements.....unless
is true 100% of the time.
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Dave Jones
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:48 pm Post subject:
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"Matt" <jeg2dsign@(removethis)earthlink.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | That was the foul language?? WTF :)
The point I was looking to make was that for OUR office, it is more
efficient to note in MS. TB is xreffed in PS, but the "real" information
is
in MS. But then, we do MEP, 99.99% 2D with over half the office on LT. I
can see the reasoning when dealing with 3D and if office standards are set
to annote in PS, but I too don't like all encompassing
statements.....unless
is true 100% of the time.
Matt
yep, that was foul language...I agree about all encompassing statements. |
They just bug me because there are so many ways to accomplish the same task
or create the same output in the same amount of time with Acad, that makes
anyone who thinks that their way is the only way a bit short sighted IMO
have a great day, be you a PS or MS annotator ;)
Dave |
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Anne Brown
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:50 pm Post subject:
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Dave Jones
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Sat Mar 19, 2005 12:14 am Post subject:
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"Anne Brown" <discussion.support@autodesk.com> wrote in message
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everything I posted would have been the same thing I would have said in a
face to face meeting. I apologize for the use of initials that could be
construed as offensive language. Other than that I think that this thread is
nothing more than a conversation about using Acad to it's full advantage and
not being closed minded about methods used to achieve an end. Nothing off
topic or non constructive about that IMO.
off to other things,
Dave |
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COVENANT777
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Sat Mar 19, 2005 2:37 am Post subject:
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Ok, since we are all being cool, I just want to state again that I was joking when i said I am the master, and that I agree that there are many ways of using autocad, i just wanted to bring up some contreveral stuff about autocad that would spark conversation that would be point proving by using examples. So i will start., the reason i believe paperspace to be the most efficient way to text in is that you don't have to make text layers for one, second when breaking out part plans lets just say on a architectual or plumbing plan, you don't have to make mulitple copies of xref. Everything is done one time with one drawing even with multiple floors, everything....(deep breath), is done once. Point being layers, layers are there to be used for these situations, we layer off mulitiple floors lets say in a bldg. for example, each floor has a set of layers, with in each floor you may want to blow up an area on the sheet. Hence viewports, now trying to cut a viewport and some how fit all the text in that view port with alot of drawing done in that blown up area can become extremely messy. So the way I do it is text it, dimension it and everytying else you can think of that has to do with
text, is done in paper space. Tabs are sheets, each tab is a sheet. So this is only a small example of what I do, please feel free to ask questions or comment. Sorry if i offended anyone, probably should have worded things differently. |
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