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Dave Jones
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 3:03 am    Post subject: Re: Paper Space vs. Model Space Reply with quote

"COVENANT777" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote in message
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Ok, since we are all being cool, I just want to state again that I was
joking when i said I am the master, and that I agree that there are many

ways of using autocad, i just wanted to bring up some contreveral stuff
about autocad that would spark conversation that would be point proving by
using examples. So i will start., the reason i believe paperspace to be the
most efficient way to text in is that you don't have to make text layers for
one, second when breaking out part plans lets just say on a architectual or
plumbing plan, you don't have to make mulitple copies of xref. Everything is
done one time with one drawing even with multiple floors,
everything....(deep breath), is done once. Point being layers, layers are
there to be used for these situations, we layer off mulitiple floors lets
say in a bldg. for example, each floor has a set of layers, with in each
floor you may want to blow up an area on the sheet. Hence viewports, now
trying to cut a viewport and some how fit all the text in that view port
with alot of drawing done in that blown up area can become extremely messy.
So the way I do it is text it, dimension it and everytying else you can
think of that has to do with text, is done in paper space. Tabs are sheets,
each tab is a sheet. So this is only a small example of what I do, please
feel free to ask questions or comment. Sorry if i offended anyone, probably
should have worded things differently.

no offense taken...I am a window wall/curtain wall designer. Most of my work
entails doing initial through final design work for exterior glazed systems.
When I'm doing system design I annotate in MS because the details are
constantly changing and I don't want to have to jump back and forth from MS
to PS to move/alter annotations to match MS changes. When I'm doing shop
drawing work and have for instance, a multi story building that I'm doing
floor plans to lay out curtain walls, I do what you do...have a different
layer scheme for each level, XRef the parent plan drawing to the various
output child drawings and annotate them in PS. I do the same for enlarged
detail plans that are created from the parent drawing geometry...XRef,
XClip, new Viewport, scale properly, then annotate, dimension, and add
symbols in PS. Both ways are, for me, the quickest and most painless way to
get the job done in each case.
Dave
DDP

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Anne Brown
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 4:39 am    Post subject: Re: Paper Space vs. Model Space Reply with quote

Dave -

You've probably been here LONGER than I have ! If you have a
newsgroup reader and look at the tree of messages, the post I
made was not indented under your name but someone quite new.

Anne

Dave Jones wrote:
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"Anne Brown" <discussion.support@autodesk.com> wrote in message
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To those of you new to these discussion groups -

I've been here as long as you have :)
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Dave Jones
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 4:53 am    Post subject: Re: Paper Space vs. Model Space Reply with quote

that's because I'm old and you're young :) Hopefully our continuing
discussion is now acceptable...Have a great weekend, maybe the ng traffic
will slow a bit for you.
Dave
"Anne Brown" <discussion.support@autodesk.com> wrote in message
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Dave -

You've probably been here LONGER than I have ! If you have a
newsgroup reader and look at the tree of messages, the post I
made was not indented under your name but someone quite new.

Anne

Dave Jones wrote:

"Anne Brown" <discussion.support@autodesk.com> wrote in message
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To those of you new to these discussion groups -

I've been here as long as you have :)


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lister@rfa
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 12:57 am    Post subject: Re: Paper Space vs. Model Space Reply with quote

Jumping in pretty late in thread here, but we use PS for our drawing layouts and MS for the actual drawing. Here is the rules we follow from our standads manual:



1 RFA Drawings will typically use both Paperspace (PS) and Modelspace (MS). The advantages of this are:

a) PS is in realworld 1:1 units as the sheet will appear so all drawings will be plotted with the same settings
b) Different components of the drawing can be moved easily as each will be in its own viewport.
c) Multiple scales can be used on one drawing while keeping all the components drawn to scale.

2 Modelspace: drawing elements representing construction components (xref’s, symbols, linework, etc) shall be in MS.

3 Paperspace: drawing elements representing graphic components (detail bubbles, titleblock, barscales etc) or components requiring no scaling (legends, schedules etc.) shall be in paperspace. Viewports for MS components shall be on a layer named VPORTS and be set to NOPLOT in the layer dialogue box.
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COVENANT777
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:38 am    Post subject: Re: Paper Space vs. Model Space Reply with quote

Ok that's all good, what about the text, where do you put that???
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