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Gordon Price
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Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:24 pm Post subject:
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With a stand alone license of AutoCAD, it is now allowed that you install a
copy at the office, and a copy at home. Is there any way to do this with a
network copy? I am setting up an office that is two architects, who want two
network licences of AutoCAD at the office, but with a copy installed on a
third machine for those rare occations when one is out at a job site or
client meeting and the other uses the book keeper to pick up red markes to
make a deadline. Both are also mothers, and having AutoCAD installed at home
for those days when the munchkins don't allow working from the office would
be ideal. I know I could configure a VPN connection so each architect could
connect to the LAN from home, but the router in place now only allows one
VPN connection, so both of them couldn't work from home simultaniously. I
guess they could each connect to the LAN and check out a license to work at
home...
Anyway, anyone have any comments on the best way to handle this? VPN for
license checkout? VPN for FlexLM connection? Standalone install at home with
a network license? Something else I aven't thought of? If this can't be
done, i am going to suggest they just not pay Autodesk the extra $1000, and
when a third person needs AutoCAD the staff just switch machines. Not as
convenient, but a lot cheaper.
Thanks,
Gordon
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gpbuttke
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Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:40 pm Post subject:
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Per the NETWORK License EULA ...
"Users can borrow network licenses for remote use for periods of up to thirty days. After the license expires, the server automatically returns it to the main license pool. Remote users who log in to your network over a Virtual Private Network (VPN) connection are issued licenses in the same way as perpetually connected users. Each seat of the network license may also be installed and activated on one additional workstation for each user, such as a home or remote workstation, provided that the user’s two workstations are not used concurrently, are used exclusively by the same person, and are owned or under the control of the license holder." |
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Gordon Price
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Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:58 pm Post subject:
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"gpbuttke" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Per the NETWORK License EULA ...
"Each seat of the network license may also be installed and activated on one |
additional workstation for each user, such as a home or remote workstation,
provided that the user's two workstations are not used concurrently, are
used exclusively by the same person, and are owned or under the control of
the license holder."
Excellent. Any advise on how to do this? Is it as simple as installing using
the network license key and doing an activation? Would I use the same key
three times, once for the network install, and twice for the two home
installs?
Thanks,
Gordon
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Cy Shuster
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Wed Jan 26, 2005 1:15 am Post subject:
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See http://www.autodesk.com/activation.
--Cy--
"Gordon Price" <gordon(thorn)@albedoconsulting.com> wrote in message
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"gpbuttke" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote in message
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Per the NETWORK License EULA ...
"Each seat of the network license may also be installed and activated on
one additional workstation for each user, such as a home or remote
workstation, provided that the user's two workstations are not used
concurrently, are used exclusively by the same person, and are owned or
under the control of the license holder."
Excellent. Any advise on how to do this? Is it as simple as installing
using the network license key and doing an activation? Would I use the
same key three times, once for the network install, and twice for the two
home installs?
Thanks,
Gordon
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Gordon Price
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Wed Jan 26, 2005 2:40 am Post subject:
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"Cy Shuster" <cy@example.com> wrote in message
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For a network license this only talks about FlexLM, License Borrowing &
lciense portability. I found no reference to a local install at home with a
network license SN. I also looked in both the FAQs.
Am I missing something here?
Thanks,
Gordon |
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jpostlewait
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Wed Jan 26, 2005 3:04 am Post subject:
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There is a pretty long rant about a month ago that I started entitled Home Use I believe.
At the end someone called in to 1.800.551.1490 from a home installation and was able to get it authorized. I still don't think that even Autodesk understands what Home use of a network license is.
It was pretty clear to me that their license agreement made little or no sense.
John Postlewait
IS Department
George Butler Associates, Inc. |
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Cy Shuster
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Wed Jan 26, 2005 5:22 am Post subject:
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The way to use a network license at home is to borrow the license. You
don't get to install the same number of seats on a "work server" and a "home
server". The network license is shared, by definition. The complete rules
for your network license are contained in the End User License Agreement on
your install disk (that you clicked "I agree" to).
Many people use a combination of network and standalone licenses, in order
to meet their specific situation.
--Cy--
"Gordon Price" <gordon(thorn)@albedoconsulting.com> wrote in message
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"Cy Shuster" <cy@example.com> wrote in message
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See http://www.autodesk.com/activation.
For a network license this only talks about FlexLM, License Borrowing &
lciense portability. I found no reference to a local install at home with
a network license SN. I also looked in both the FAQs.
Am I missing something here?
Thanks,
Gordon |
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gpbuttke
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jpostlewait
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Wed Jan 26, 2005 7:04 am Post subject:
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Each seat of the network license may also be installed and activated on one additional workstation for each user, such as a home or remote workstation, provided that the user’s two workstations are not used concurrently, are used exclusively by the same person, and are owned or under the control of the license holder."
Think about this for a minute.
It seems to me the only way to insure compliance is to check out a license from the license server.
And by the way pay attention to the language about being
owned or under control; of the license holder.
John P. |
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Cy Shuster
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Wed Jan 26, 2005 9:48 am Post subject:
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Wow, well, I stand corrected; sorry.
Technically I don't know how you would activate a network seat on a home or
remote workstation; it seems that would require a standalone license. I
think the original question was not about permission, but technically how to
accomplish this. You certainly don't reuse auth codes, since network
licenses don't have them, but I don't know what the process would be.
--Cy--
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| Quote: | Each seat of the network license may also be installed and activated on
one additional workstation for each user, such as a home or remote
workstation, provided that the user's two workstations are not used
concurrently, are used exclusively by the same person, and are owned or
under the control of the license holder." |
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Gordon Price
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Thu Jan 27, 2005 1:17 am Post subject:
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"Cy Shuster" <cy@example.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Wow, well, I stand corrected; sorry.
Technically I don't know how you would activate a network seat on a home
or remote workstation; it seems that would require a standalone license.
I think the original question was not about permission, but technically
how to accomplish this. You certainly don't reuse auth codes, since
network licenses don't have them, but I don't know what the process would
be.
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Exactly my question. My reading of the EULA is that I CAN legally set up a
copy at the architect's home, as well as the two license network at the
office. I would prefer to avoid license borrowing or FlexLM usage, as that
requires some pre-planning. The idea is, when a kid is sick, she just works
from home. No body else in the office has her user password, so no one can
use her machine, nor would she allow them to, so that also is covered.
Again, I am HOPING for a way to use a network SN to get a stand-alone
install. If that is not possible, I have the VPN option, but my preference
is to not go that route, mainly because her DSL is from SBC and it sucks,
perhaps 30% of the time no connection. So a way to comply with the EULA, get
a stand-alone at home, and NOT need a connection back to the office is
ideal.
Best,
Gordon |
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Drew Burgasser
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Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:42 am Post subject:
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My guess is that the last sentence of the second paragraph is erroneous.
Maybe, because of this post, it will be removed. :-)
We've been told that there is no home use agreement with a network copy
similar to an s/a copy.
I think VPN will be the best bet. If SBC DSL is sketchy, check out a
license for a day.
Sincerely,
Drew Burgasser
CAD Masters, Inc.
www.cadmasters.com
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Bill Farley
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Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:00 pm Post subject:
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It would be nice if you could check out a license and email it to that
person. That would assure that nobody in the office is using the license
and she would have the ability to pull the license from her email and work.
We have been going though the same thing here. I've always had a copy
installed at home that I could use when a kid is sick but now I can't do
that. Our IT guy is researching the VPN option but so far no luck.
"Gordon Price" <gordon(thorn)@albedoconsulting.com> wrote in message
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"Cy Shuster" <cy@example.com> wrote in message
news:41f7213c$1_3@newsprd01...
Wow, well, I stand corrected; sorry.
Technically I don't know how you would activate a network seat on a home
or remote workstation; it seems that would require a standalone license.
I think the original question was not about permission, but technically
how to accomplish this. You certainly don't reuse auth codes, since
network licenses don't have them, but I don't know what the process
would
be.
Exactly my question. My reading of the EULA is that I CAN legally set up a
copy at the architect's home, as well as the two license network at the
office. I would prefer to avoid license borrowing or FlexLM usage, as that
requires some pre-planning. The idea is, when a kid is sick, she just
works
from home. No body else in the office has her user password, so no one can
use her machine, nor would she allow them to, so that also is covered.
Again, I am HOPING for a way to use a network SN to get a stand-alone
install. If that is not possible, I have the VPN option, but my preference
is to not go that route, mainly because her DSL is from SBC and it sucks,
perhaps 30% of the time no connection. So a way to comply with the EULA,
get
a stand-alone at home, and NOT need a connection back to the office is
ideal.
Best,
Gordon
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Gordon Price
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Fri Jan 28, 2005 1:49 am Post subject:
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"Bill Farley" <farleywp@c-b.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | It would be nice if you could check out a license and email it to that
person. That would assure that nobody in the office is using the license
and she would have the ability to pull the license from her email and
work.
We have been going though the same thing here. I've always had a copy
installed at home that I could use when a kid is sick but now I can't do
that. Our IT guy is researching the VPN option but so far no luck.
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That wouldn't work very well in this case, where there are only two people
in the office, and both could be out at the same time and need to work
remotely. I suspect i will set things up so that each could VPN in, check
out a license and copy work files, then close the tunnel and let the other
in. Not as good as just having a home copy, but until Autodesk figures out
how the real world works, we make do ;)
Best,
Gordon |
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jpostlewait
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Fri Jan 28, 2005 3:13 am Post subject:
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Re: Home use
I just got done talking to Autodesk Customer Care and got teh Authcodes for
our Network copies to run standalone on a home desktop computer. There was
no problem I explained that it was a desktop computer with no network access
to the work network. If you have a laptop then protable licensing makes
sense but desktops have to be handled this way. Anyway, you probably have to
deal directly with Customer Care because the regular Authorization people
don't think they are authorized to do this yet. Call 800-538-6404 then dial
1 at the voice menu then dial 0 and you will get someone who can help you.
I copied this from the Home use thread from Cad Managers.
You can always give this a shot.
John Postlewait
IS Department
George Butler Associates, Inc. |
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