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Selene
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 12:00 am    Post subject: different line weights by different drafters Reply with quote

Our client provided a title block & border which I provided to drafters in
two different offices.

I now have all these drawings resident here, but when I plot them, the line
weights plot differently for both fonts and lines. This is on both the TB&B
and on things we added, like detail titles or notes.

I checked that the layer names are all the same and that individual layers
have not been adjusted to a particular color, line weight or type
(everything is by layer). The scale of both drawings is the same.

I am using the same plot (.ctb) file for both drawings.

I tried printing to different printers with similar results.

I'm not sure where else to look. *Something* is telling layer
RE-NORM-PLAN-TXT, color #10, linetype continuous, lineweight default (and
lots of other layers with similar definitions) to plot bolder on one plot
than the other. What could it be?

Selene
trying to avoid cutting and pasting into a new drawing

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wookie
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 5:53 am    Post subject: Re: different line weights by different drafters Reply with quote

Hmmmm.......some guesses......posting some samples would help.

-Are you plotting at a scale that is not 1:1 and is the scale lineweights box checked in one drawing? (in the plot dialogue)

-Are some of the objects drawn with a lineweight that is not by layer and/or is the plot with plotstyles box unchecked?

-What are the objects affected? If they are blocks or xrefs, check they are inserted on the same layer in both drawings including nested objects)
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Jan van de Poel
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:04 am    Post subject: Re: different line weights by different drafters Reply with quote

That's why our office policy is:
Don't use lineweights !
Don't use plotstyles !

We use layers to identify different lines/colors, always clear for everyone.

Jan

"Selene" <selene_fisher@urscorp.com> schreef in bericht
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Quote:
Our client provided a title block & border which I provided to drafters in
two different offices.

I now have all these drawings resident here, but when I plot them, the
line
weights plot differently for both fonts and lines. This is on both the
TB&B
and on things we added, like detail titles or notes.

I checked that the layer names are all the same and that individual layers
have not been adjusted to a particular color, line weight or type
(everything is by layer). The scale of both drawings is the same.

I am using the same plot (.ctb) file for both drawings.

I tried printing to different printers with similar results.

I'm not sure where else to look. *Something* is telling layer
RE-NORM-PLAN-TXT, color #10, linetype continuous, lineweight default (and
lots of other layers with similar definitions) to plot bolder on one plot
than the other. What could it be?

Selene
trying to avoid cutting and pasting into a new drawing



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Selene
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:48 pm    Post subject: Re: different line weights by different drafters Reply with quote

"Jan van de Poel" <ergens@nergens.nl> wrote
Quote:
That's why our office policy is:
Don't use lineweights !
Don't use plotstyles !

We use layers to identify different lines/colors, always clear for
everyone.

Jan

Jan -
As far as I can tell, we are using only layers to identify lines. It's all
in the CTB (or at least, I think it is). That's why I was posting the
original question - because we have done it all by layers, but it's still
plotting differently, and I must have missed a check box somewhere!

Selene



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"Selene" <selene_fisher@urscorp.com> schreef
Our client provided a title block & border which I provided to drafters
in
two different offices.

I now have all these drawings resident here, but when I plot them, the
line weights plot differently for both fonts and lines. This is on both
the
TB&B and on things we added, like detail titles or notes.

I checked that the layer names are all the same and that individual
layers
have not been adjusted to a particular color, line weight or type
(everything is by layer). The scale of both drawings is the same.

I am using the same plot (.ctb) file for both drawings.

I tried printing to different printers with similar results.

I'm not sure where else to look. *Something* is telling layer
RE-NORM-PLAN-TXT, color #10, linetype continuous, lineweight
default (and lots of other layers with similar definitions) to plot
bolder
on one plot than the other. What could it be?

Selene
trying to avoid cutting and pasting into a new drawing



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Selene
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:07 pm    Post subject: Re: different line weights by different drafters Reply with quote

"wookie" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote
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Hmmmm.......some guesses......posting some samples would help.

For future reference, how do you 'post' samples? You mean, to an FTP site
somewhere? You don't actually attach binary (CAD) files to the posts, do
you?

Quote:
-Are you plotting at a scale that is not 1:1 and is the scale lineweights
box
checked in one drawing? (in the plot dialogue)

Ah ha! By george, you've hit on it! (first try, good going!) Although we
have a 'page setup' file and a 'plot style table' for this drawing set,
apparently the 'scale lineweights' check box does not accompany these. I
assume the drafter in the other office checked that box and it has carried
along with the drawing. In this office, we use separate pen assignments for
Full and Half-Size, rather than relying on scaled line weights for the
half-size drawings.

Quote:
-Are some of the objects drawn with a lineweight that is not by layer
and/or is the plot with plotstyles box unchecked?

I had checked both of these and they were the same.

Quote:
-What are the objects affected? If they are blocks or xrefs, check they
are inserted
on the same layer in both drawings including nested objects)

I had also checked this - it happened across all field, blocks, xrefs, and
direct input. That's why I was so stumped. The 'scale lineweights' box
would apply across all these, though.

Thank you so much "wookie" - this has stumped several drafters. I guess
when you're used to doing things one way, you don't know where all to look.
Ahhh, you have SO made my day! This was holding up a deliverable.

Selene
loving the internet right now
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Anne Brown
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 12:45 am    Post subject: Re: different line weights by different drafters Reply with quote

Selene -

Attachments of up to 1 meg may be made in any discussion group
but it is more polite to put large files into the Customer Files
area. OE allows attachments to your message.

However if a person is coming into the discussion groups via the
HTTP web side and has a large file, go to the Customer Files
group at http://discussion.autodesk.com/forum.jspa?forumID=126
and post your file as below. Then come back to this group and
leave a note that your file is posted.

At the HTTP site, you should see a highlighted line of text to
the middle right that says "Post new topic". Click on that icon
and a two text boxes appear in center of the screen. Type in a
subject line, fill in your message and then at the bottom of the
text box you will see "Add an Attachment".

This will appear "Add an Attachment. Click "Browse" to add an
attachment. You are allowed only one attachment per post. We
encourage you to make your attachments as small as possible, and
enforce a 1 MB limit.

Browse to your own computer location for the file (PLEASE ZIP if
at all possible; obviously some files will not zip smaller)

Once all is filled in, click on Attach file. Last step is to hit
the "Post Topic" icon. You may have to leave the newsgroup and
come back to see your own post.
---
Anne Brown
Discussion Groups Administrator
Autodesk, Inc.

Selene wrote:
Quote:

"wookie" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote
Hmmmm.......some guesses......posting some samples would help.

For future reference, how do you 'post' samples? You mean, to an FTP site
somewhere? You don't actually attach binary (CAD) files to the posts, do
you? (snip)
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Jan van de Poel
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 10:04 am    Post subject: Re: different line weights by different drafters Reply with quote

Selene,
in all my years as a cad-operator/manager/whatever I always told new users
to use only the layer structure and follow company standards.

Every once and a while some smart..s comes along and thinks he/she knows
better.
When properly backed-up by management even these people come into line.

Company rule is:
if you don't follow company standards, you can correct the drawings to
company standards IN YOUR OWN TIME.

That 'ill teach them.

May sound harsch, but sometimes it's needed, maybe you can address these
users in the same way.
Don't take their mess up your plate, let them do the correction they created
it.

Hope it helps a little.
Regards,
Jan


"Selene" <selene_fisher@urscorp.com> schreef in bericht
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Quote:
"Jan van de Poel" <ergens@nergens.nl> wrote
That's why our office policy is:
Don't use lineweights !
Don't use plotstyles !

We use layers to identify different lines/colors, always clear for
everyone.

Jan

Jan -
As far as I can tell, we are using only layers to identify lines. It's
all
in the CTB (or at least, I think it is). That's why I was posting the
original question - because we have done it all by layers, but it's still
plotting differently, and I must have missed a check box somewhere!

Selene
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