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rlw7163
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 11:21 pm    Post subject: Borrowing more than 30 days? Reply with quote

The link below says that you can borrow a network license for up to six months. Is this really true and if so how can I get my AutoCAD 2005 to borrow more than 30 days?

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=4793616

Ron

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Cy Shuster
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:54 am    Post subject: Re: Borrowing more than 30 days? Reply with quote

Check your documentation. The network administrator sets the maximum borrow
time in your license file on the server, in hours, I believe. Didn't
realize it was six months now! It used to be a week...

--Cy--

"rlw7163" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote in message
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Quote:
The link below says that you can borrow a network license for up to six
months. Is this really true and if so how can I get my AutoCAD 2005 to
borrow more than 30 days?

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=4793616

Ron
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rlw7163
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 6:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Borrowing more than 30 days? Reply with quote

I’ve just requested a new license file today from Autodesk online registration and it shows borrow=720 which I believe is 720 hours or 30 days. Evidently Autodesk documentation is not in sync with their product. Maybe someone from Autodesk can explain why this conflict exists.

Ron

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Cy Shuster
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 9:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Borrowing more than 30 days? Reply with quote

Some items in the license file can be edited by you; some cannot (check your
documentation in your product; the difference is shown by
uppercase/lowercase). You can edit many options, such as the timeout
interval, the maximum number of licenses that can be borrowed, etc. You may
well be able to edit this hour value.

--Cy--

"rlw7163" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote in message
news:30979425.1105018651352.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum2.autodesk.com...
Quote:
I've just requested a new license file today from Autodesk online
registration and it shows borrow=720 which I believe is 720 hours or 30
days. Evidently Autodesk documentation is not in sync with their product.
Maybe someone from Autodesk can explain why this conflict exists.

Ron
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franck Hervet
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 9:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Borrowing more than 30 days? Reply with quote

FlexLM Documentation :
Changes the maximum period a license can be borrowed from that specified in
the license certificate for feature.
The new period must be less than that in the license certificate.

In the Lic file, the Borrow indicates a number in hours.
If you want use the opt file, you must indicates a period less than that in
the Lic file.

--
Best regards

Franck Hervet
http://www.aricad.fr

"rlw7163" <nospam@address.withheld> a écrit dans le message de
news:30979425.1105018651352.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum2.autodesk.com...
Quote:
I've just requested a new license file today from Autodesk online
registration and it shows borrow=720 which I believe is 720 hours or 30

days. Evidently Autodesk documentation is not in sync with their product.
Maybe someone from Autodesk can explain why this conflict exists.
Quote:

Ron
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jerry milana (Autodesk Co
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:23 am    Post subject: Re: Borrowing more than 30 days? Reply with quote

Thanks for calling this to our attention Ron. The limit is in fact 30 days.
I have alerted our marketing folks regarding the error in the WEB page.

--
Jerry Milana,
Autodesk Consulting

"rlw7163" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote in message
news:30979425.1105018651352.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum2.autodesk.com...
Quote:
I've just requested a new license file today from Autodesk online
registration and it shows borrow=720 which I believe is 720 hours or 30

days. Evidently Autodesk documentation is not in sync with their product.
Maybe someone from Autodesk can explain why this conflict exists.
Quote:

Ron
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franck Hervet
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 3:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Borrowing more than 30 days? Reply with quote

Hi all,

I try this day to change the value BORROW in my lic file.
When i reread the lic file, the lmtools respond "unsupported".
My first question is : Can Autodesk give me a Borrow time more than 720
hours?
I have a user that have a mission for 4 month.

After regarding my Lic file, i see that some product have 720 for the Borrow
period and other 760.
Now for my first question, my answer will be Yes.

My second question is : If i'm connect to my network or not connect, the
utility to borrow a license
give me a period of 30 days. how this utility gives this period? Is this a
limit in this exe?

My last question is for Ron : What are your experience since your first
post?

--
Best regards

Franck Hervet
http://www.aricad.fr

"jerry milana (Autodesk Consulting)" <milanaj@autodesk.com> a écrit dans le
message de news:41ddba7c$1_1@newsprd01...
Quote:
Thanks for calling this to our attention Ron. The limit is in fact 30
days.
I have alerted our marketing folks regarding the error in the WEB page.

--
Jerry Milana,
Autodesk Consulting

"rlw7163" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote in message
news:30979425.1105018651352.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum2.autodesk.com...
I've just requested a new license file today from Autodesk online
registration and it shows borrow=720 which I believe is 720 hours or 30
days. Evidently Autodesk documentation is not in sync with their product.
Maybe someone from Autodesk can explain why this conflict exists.

Ron

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Jimmy Bergmark
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 3:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Borrowing more than 30 days? Reply with quote

You should not change 720 within the license file. Leave it as it is.
If you want to restrict it you have to use adskflex.opt
You cannot increase borrowing to more than 30 days.

--
Best Regards, Jimmy Bergmark
CAD and Database Developer Manager at www.pharmadule-emtunga.com
Blog: http://jtbworld.blogspot.com
JTB FlexReport (FLEXlm report tool) - www.jtbworld.com/jtbflexreport
SmartPurger (Purges automatically) - www.jtbworld.com/?/smartpurger.htm
or download some freeware at www.jtbworld.com
More on AutoCAD 2005;
www.jtbworld.com/autocad2005.htm


"franck Hervet" <f@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
news:41e79980$1_2@newsprd01...
Quote:
Hi all,

I try this day to change the value BORROW in my lic file.
When i reread the lic file, the lmtools respond "unsupported".
My first question is : Can Autodesk give me a Borrow time more than 720
hours?
I have a user that have a mission for 4 month.

After regarding my Lic file, i see that some product have 720 for the
Borrow
period and other 760.
Now for my first question, my answer will be Yes.

My second question is : If i'm connect to my network or not connect, the
utility to borrow a license
give me a period of 30 days. how this utility gives this period? Is this a
limit in this exe?

My last question is for Ron : What are your experience since your first
post?

--
Best regards

Franck Hervet
http://www.aricad.fr

"jerry milana (Autodesk Consulting)" <milanaj@autodesk.com> a écrit dans
le
message de news:41ddba7c$1_1@newsprd01...
Thanks for calling this to our attention Ron. The limit is in fact 30
days.
I have alerted our marketing folks regarding the error in the WEB page.

--
Jerry Milana,
Autodesk Consulting

"rlw7163" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote in message
news:30979425.1105018651352.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum2.autodesk.com...
I've just requested a new license file today from Autodesk online
registration and it shows borrow=720 which I believe is 720 hours or 30
days. Evidently Autodesk documentation is not in sync with their product.
Maybe someone from Autodesk can explain why this conflict exists.

Ron



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franck Hervet
Guest





Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 3:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Borrowing more than 30 days? Reply with quote

Thanks Jimmy.
I'm disappointed! Why this limitation?
Do you an explanation why i have 720 (30days * 24 hours) or 760 (?? *
24hours)?


--
Best regards

Franck Hervet
http://www.aricad.fr

"Jimmy Bergmark" <info@jtbworld.com> a écrit dans le message de
news:41e79f8a$1_3@newsprd01...
Quote:
You should not change 720 within the license file. Leave it as it is.
If you want to restrict it you have to use adskflex.opt
You cannot increase borrowing to more than 30 days.

--
Best Regards, Jimmy Bergmark
CAD and Database Developer Manager at www.pharmadule-emtunga.com
Blog: http://jtbworld.blogspot.com
JTB FlexReport (FLEXlm report tool) - www.jtbworld.com/jtbflexreport
SmartPurger (Purges automatically) - www.jtbworld.com/?/smartpurger.htm
or download some freeware at www.jtbworld.com
More on AutoCAD 2005;
www.jtbworld.com/autocad2005.htm


"franck Hervet" <f@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
news:41e79980$1_2@newsprd01...
Hi all,

I try this day to change the value BORROW in my lic file.
When i reread the lic file, the lmtools respond "unsupported".
My first question is : Can Autodesk give me a Borrow time more than 720
hours?
I have a user that have a mission for 4 month.

After regarding my Lic file, i see that some product have 720 for the
Borrow
period and other 760.
Now for my first question, my answer will be Yes.

My second question is : If i'm connect to my network or not connect, the
utility to borrow a license
give me a period of 30 days. how this utility gives this period? Is this
a
limit in this exe?

My last question is for Ron : What are your experience since your first
post?

--
Best regards

Franck Hervet
http://www.aricad.fr

"jerry milana (Autodesk Consulting)" <milanaj@autodesk.com> a écrit dans
le
message de news:41ddba7c$1_1@newsprd01...
Thanks for calling this to our attention Ron. The limit is in fact 30
days.
I have alerted our marketing folks regarding the error in the WEB page.

--
Jerry Milana,
Autodesk Consulting

"rlw7163" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote in message
news:30979425.1105018651352.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum2.autodesk.com...
I've just requested a new license file today from Autodesk online
registration and it shows borrow=720 which I believe is 720 hours or 30
days. Evidently Autodesk documentation is not in sync with their
product.
Maybe someone from Autodesk can explain why this conflict exists.

Ron





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Jimmy Bergmark
Guest





Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 6:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Borrowing more than 30 days? Reply with quote

Autodesk have made this limitation. Don't know why and I'm not sure where
760 comes from but if you got the license file from Autodesk that way I
guess you should just leave it that way.

--
Best Regards, Jimmy Bergmark
CAD and Database Developer Manager at www.pharmadule-emtunga.com
Blog: http://jtbworld.blogspot.com
JTB FlexReport (FLEXlm report tool) - www.jtbworld.com/jtbflexreport
SmartPurger (Purges automatically) - www.jtbworld.com/?/smartpurger.htm
or download some freeware at www.jtbworld.com
More on AutoCAD 2005;
www.jtbworld.com/autocad2005.htm


"franck Hervet" <f@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message news:41e7a1c1_1@newsprd01...
Quote:
Thanks Jimmy.
I'm disappointed! Why this limitation?
Do you an explanation why i have 720 (30days * 24 hours) or 760 (?? *
24hours)?


--
Best regards

Franck Hervet
http://www.aricad.fr

"Jimmy Bergmark" <info@jtbworld.com> a écrit dans le message de
news:41e79f8a$1_3@newsprd01...
You should not change 720 within the license file. Leave it as it is.
If you want to restrict it you have to use adskflex.opt
You cannot increase borrowing to more than 30 days.

--
Best Regards, Jimmy Bergmark
CAD and Database Developer Manager at www.pharmadule-emtunga.com
Blog: http://jtbworld.blogspot.com
JTB FlexReport (FLEXlm report tool) - www.jtbworld.com/jtbflexreport
SmartPurger (Purges automatically) - www.jtbworld.com/?/smartpurger.htm
or download some freeware at www.jtbworld.com
More on AutoCAD 2005;
www.jtbworld.com/autocad2005.htm


"franck Hervet" <f@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
news:41e79980$1_2@newsprd01...
Hi all,

I try this day to change the value BORROW in my lic file.
When i reread the lic file, the lmtools respond "unsupported".
My first question is : Can Autodesk give me a Borrow time more than 720
hours?
I have a user that have a mission for 4 month.

After regarding my Lic file, i see that some product have 720 for the
Borrow
period and other 760.
Now for my first question, my answer will be Yes.

My second question is : If i'm connect to my network or not connect,
the
utility to borrow a license
give me a period of 30 days. how this utility gives this period? Is
this
a
limit in this exe?

My last question is for Ron : What are your experience since your
first
post?

--
Best regards

Franck Hervet
http://www.aricad.fr

"jerry milana (Autodesk Consulting)" <milanaj@autodesk.com> a écrit
dans
le
message de news:41ddba7c$1_1@newsprd01...
Thanks for calling this to our attention Ron. The limit is in fact 30
days.
I have alerted our marketing folks regarding the error in the WEB
page.

--
Jerry Milana,
Autodesk Consulting

"rlw7163" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote in message
news:30979425.1105018651352.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum2.autodesk.com...
I've just requested a new license file today from Autodesk online
registration and it shows borrow=720 which I believe is 720 hours or
30
days. Evidently Autodesk documentation is not in sync with their
product.
Maybe someone from Autodesk can explain why this conflict exists.

Ron







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rlw7163
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Borrowing more than 30 days? Reply with quote

Franck,

I put in a support question to Autodesk about this issue and they told me that 30 days is the borrowing limit and that they will correct any information on their web site that says something different.

In today’s business world where companies are global, I'm surprised that Autodesk put this limit at 30 days. Our company is a very large engineering company with engineers and designers traveling abroad for 4 to 6 months or even a year then return to home base. We would have to take network licenses and turn them into standalone licenses.

Even Bentley will let you borrow up to 90 days for MicroStation. I thought Autodesk was the leader in the CAD industry. Well if they are the leader, they should be more business friendly and accommodating.

Ron
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jerry milana (Autodesk Co
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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:02 am    Post subject: Re: Borrowing more than 30 days? Reply with quote

Just a couple of things to keep in mind.
If your traveling users have VPN or similar, remote access to your network
then they can reborrow in the field. This operation does not require much
bandwidth so even a RAS dial-in connection should be fine for this.
Next, longer borrow periods introduce more risk. If a license does not get
returned for any reason, you are without that seat until the borrow period
expires.

--
Jerry Milana,
Autodesk Consulting

"rlw7163" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote in message
news:17050187.1105969583839.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum2.autodesk.com...
Quote:
Franck,

I put in a support question to Autodesk about this issue and they told me
that 30 days is the borrowing limit and that they will correct any

information on their web site that says something different.
Quote:

In today's business world where companies are global, I'm surprised that
Autodesk put this limit at 30 days. Our company is a very large engineering

company with engineers and designers traveling abroad for 4 to 6 months or
even a year then return to home base. We would have to take network licenses
and turn them into standalone licenses.
Quote:

Even Bentley will let you borrow up to 90 days for MicroStation. I thought
Autodesk was the leader in the CAD industry. Well if they are the leader,

they should be more business friendly and accommodating.
Quote:

Ron
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Charles Park
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 7:19 am    Post subject: Re: Borrowing more than 30 days? Reply with quote

Dear Jerry
Most of companies using netwrok license AutoCAD have the autoCAD more than 1
copy.
And most of companies have its firewall or proxy thus a personnel who in
business trip cannot
contact with license server located in the company...

"jerry milana (Autodesk Consulting)" <milanaj@autodesk.com> wrote in message
news:41ecbb2e$1_1@newsprd01...
Quote:
Just a couple of things to keep in mind.
If your traveling users have VPN or similar, remote access to your network
then they can reborrow in the field. This operation does not require much
bandwidth so even a RAS dial-in connection should be fine for this.
Next, longer borrow periods introduce more risk. If a license does not
get
returned for any reason, you are without that seat until the borrow period
expires.

--
Jerry Milana,
Autodesk Consulting

"rlw7163" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote in message
news:17050187.1105969583839.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum2.autodesk.com...
Franck,

I put in a support question to Autodesk about this issue and they told
me
that 30 days is the borrowing limit and that they will correct any
information on their web site that says something different.

In today's business world where companies are global, I'm surprised that
Autodesk put this limit at 30 days. Our company is a very large
engineering
company with engineers and designers traveling abroad for 4 to 6 months or
even a year then return to home base. We would have to take network
licenses
and turn them into standalone licenses.

Even Bentley will let you borrow up to 90 days for MicroStation. I
thought
Autodesk was the leader in the CAD industry. Well if they are the leader,
they should be more business friendly and accommodating.

Ron

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kmc
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 10:06 am    Post subject: Re: Borrowing more than 30 days? Reply with quote

how can you stop license borrowing I have it where all the licenses are out (Borrowed) and cant get them back I have tried stopping the service but they are still out there
I would like to set it up so the licenses are just used and not taken by a user

thanks
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jerry milana (Autodesk Co
Guest





Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 12:27 am    Post subject: Re: Borrowing more than 30 days? Reply with quote

You can control license borrowing using the options file. There are several
parameters you can choose from to control borrowing. I suggest you review
the FLEXlm documentation which was installed under your license manager
folder on your license server.
Restarting the license manager does not give your borrowed licenses back by
design. If it did allow that it would place you in a position of license
agreement violation. There are two authorized ways for you to get your
licenses back. Either wait for the expire period to occur or get your users
to connect to the network and return their licenses early.

--
Jerry Milana,
Autodesk Consulting

"kmc" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote in message
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Quote:
how can you stop license borrowing I have it where all the licenses are
out (Borrowed) and cant get them back I have tried stopping the service but

they are still out there
Quote:
I would like to set it up so the licenses are just used and not taken by a
user

thanks
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