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Laurie Comerford
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Wed Dec 29, 2004 10:12 am Post subject:
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Hi,
OK. Given that, I have already provided the information you need to get
started in my first two posts.
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Regards,
Laurie Comerford
www.cadapps.com.au
"Rad_Cadder" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Laurie,
I would have to agree that training seems like the logical answer, the
problem is "people make mistakes".
The problem is our Tech's don't always use Autocad and spend the majority
of their time utilizing LDD and yes they do forget to check if autocad is
open prior to double clicking the LDD icon.
As for the managerial sanction, I think given the circumstances that's a
little over the top. How do you hold someone accountable for creating
their own inconvenience?
And although programming requires that you are able to define your problem
and create code to deal with it, doesn't mean that everone is prepared or
equipped with the knowledge on how to do so. Hence this forum and
thousands of others just like it full of people asking for help and
insight on what the best way to handle a given circumstance might be.
And once again you may be right, because I have read several posts that
implied that it very well may be possible and if I wasn't prepared to
devote the time and resources to fix this problem, I would not have posted
to begin with.
Thanx - Rob |
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Ed Jobe
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Wed Dec 29, 2004 9:14 pm Post subject:
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As I said before, its possible. Use the GetObject function. If it returns an
AcadApplication object, pop a MsgBox: "A version of acad is already
running.". If it doesn't then use shell to launch LDD. This can be done with
either VB or VBScript.
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Ed
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"Rad_Cadder" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Ed,
I have checked the registry and compared with acad & LDD the following
keys are present only while acad is open.
"Validation Policy"=dword:00000003
"Validation Strategy"=dword:00000001
"I believe" This is the registration for our liscence server?
My first thought was that you may be able to create a custom icon and as
you say, run a script be it DOS or VB, and check for presence of keys and if |
not present load LDD.
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Like I mentioned before I am new to this aspect of programming, Lisp is as
far as I have ventured so I am just searching for "possibilities" |
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Ed Jobe
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Wed Dec 29, 2004 9:20 pm Post subject:
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Before you go down that path, have you asked "Why does the acad profile get
messed up?" I have Map and ADT on the same machine and don't have any
problem having them both open at the same time. Perhaps its how you have
your profiles set up. Do you start both using the same profile name?
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"Laurie Comerford" <laurie.comerford at I hate Spam.com.au> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Hi,
OK. Given that, I have already provided the information you need to get
started in my first two posts.
--
Regards,
Laurie Comerford
www.cadapps.com.au
"Rad_Cadder" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote in message
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Laurie,
I would have to agree that training seems like the logical answer, the
problem is "people make mistakes".
The problem is our Tech's don't always use Autocad and spend the
majority
of their time utilizing LDD and yes they do forget to check if autocad
is
open prior to double clicking the LDD icon.
As for the managerial sanction, I think given the circumstances that's a
little over the top. How do you hold someone accountable for creating
their own inconvenience?
And although programming requires that you are able to define your
problem
and create code to deal with it, doesn't mean that everone is prepared
or
equipped with the knowledge on how to do so. Hence this forum and
thousands of others just like it full of people asking for help and
insight on what the best way to handle a given circumstance might be.
And once again you may be right, because I have read several posts that
implied that it very well may be possible and if I wasn't prepared to
devote the time and resources to fix this problem, I would not have
posted
to begin with.
Thanx - Rob
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Rad_Cadder
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Wed Dec 29, 2004 10:08 pm Post subject:
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Ed,
We run on a network with a laptop install and there are seperate profiles for autocad and LDD.
This install method was supported by autodesk back with release 14 and the company has stuck with it for the simple fact that it is much easier to update 45+ pc's from one location.
As to why the profile is overwriting, I'm all ears!
If anyone knows I'm listening.
Thanx - Rob |
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Don Reichle
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Fri Dec 31, 2004 7:50 am Post subject:
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Hey Rob;
A word to the wise...
Laurie can be of tremendous help to you once you can get your "ducks in a row" (translated - think things through).
And even though his name makes you think in the feminine from the get-go - see http://www.cadapps.com.au/ca/48.html for his picture and http://www.cadapps.com.au/ca/50.html/ for his knowledge base - he's probably forgotten more than we know. Though the longer I'm acquainted with him the less likely I think this is possible - the forgetting part I mean.
He tends to think about the procedure from a programming aspect almost immediately. And I would suggest staying on his good side until he gets to know you, if you want to benefit from those years of experience. And if you reside to the West of the International Date Line and North of the Equator you'll want to give him some time to respond to your queries and replies as he is in Eastern Australia for work and home. That you may gather from the links above. And speaking of translation - wait till he hits you with a "chainage" (stationing) or "level" (elevation).
If you can make it through all of that superfluous stuff, he will help you immensely to get things sorted out. And you'll be very glad for his help.
Now I've probably embarrassed him.
Happy New Year's, Laurie and Rob, and all the rest of you folks in the DG!
--
Don Reichle
"King Of Work-Arounds"
Barghausen Consulting Engineers
Kent, WA USA
LDT3 - SP1/CD3 - SP1
On WIN2K SP4
Dell 1.6 Ghz P4
512MB RAM
NVIDIA 32MB AGP
"Rad_Cadder" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote in message news:8501150.1104340148133.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum2.autodesk.com...
| Quote: | Ed,
We run on a network with a laptop install and there are seperate profiles for autocad and LDD.
This install method was supported by autodesk back with release 14 and the company has stuck with it for the simple fact that it is much easier to update 45+ pc's from one location.
As to why the profile is overwriting, I'm all ears!
If anyone knows I'm listening.
Thanx - Rob |
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Jorge Jimenez
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Mon Jan 03, 2005 11:50 am Post subject:
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Rob, maybe pointing the LDD shortcut to a VB app
or VB scripting app that would check if ACAD is running
could be a simple solution to your problem.
This app would launch LDD if no ACAD is running.
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Saludos, Ing. Jorge Jimenez, SICAD S.A., Costa Rica
"Rad_Cadder" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Ed,
We run on a network with a laptop install and there are seperate profiles
for autocad and LDD.
This install method was supported by autodesk back with release 14 and the
company has stuck with it for the simple fact that it is much easier to
update 45+ pc's from one location.
As to why the profile is overwriting, I'm all ears!
If anyone knows I'm listening.
Thanx - Rob |
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Rad_Cadder
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Mon Jan 03, 2005 10:11 pm Post subject:
Re: Open LDD |
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Thank you all for your replies:
I'm not here to get on anyone's bad side, all I was after was a general idea of what it would take to accomplish this task.
Obviously some people think it is possible, others think it is not, so it begins to get frustrating when someone shoots you down right at the start and/or tells you that their way is the only way to accomplish something.
I think it would serve us all well to remember that our way is not always the only way.
Thanx - Rob |
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Jorge Jimenez
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Mon Jan 03, 2005 10:30 pm Post subject:
Re: Open LDD |
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BTW, the profile problem you mention
when running LDD and AutoCAD
is also a problem for us.
This happens with LDD 2000i to 2002
but NOT all time.!!!
Users launch AutoCAD because
they need to open two or three drawings
at a time (as reference) and LDD
will not let them (single document mode).
So, instead of opening many instances of LDD
they prefer to launch one LDD
and one AutoCAD session.
This, somehow, messes the registry
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Saludos, Ing. Jorge Jimenez, SICAD S.A., Costa Rica
"Rad_Cadder" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Thank you all for your replies:
I'm not here to get on anyone's bad side, all I was after was a general
idea of what it would take to accomplish this task.
Obviously some people think it is possible, others think it is not, so it
begins to get frustrating when someone shoots you down right at the start
and/or tells you that their way is the only way to accomplish something.
I think it would serve us all well to remember that our way is not always
the only way.
Thanx - Rob |
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Don Reichle
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Mon Jan 03, 2005 10:58 pm Post subject:
Re: Open LDD |
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Hey Gentlemen;
It has been recently discussed (in the Land Desktop DG) that the issue of
Multiple LDT sessions open at once is a relatively safe methodology (at
least among the respondents). I think I surveyed the group during early or
mid October last year, and the majority of the responses were favorable.
There were a minority who brought up the issue of potential corruption to
alignments in one project. The majority reported this being a non-issue for
them. As in not having experienced it in choosing the policy of multiple LDT
sessions open at once.
In one firm I worked with, it was the daily routine to have three or four
sessions open at once - and that was with LDT 2i. Not once in two years did
we have problems with alignments going belly-up.
HTH
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Don Reichle
"King Of Work-Arounds"
Barghausen Consulting Engineers
Kent, WA USA
LDT3 - SP1/CD3 - SP1
On WIN2K SP4
Dell 1.6 Ghz P4
512MB RAM
NVIDIA 32MB AGP
"Jorge Jimenez" <unknown@nospam.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | BTW, the profile problem you mention
when running LDD and AutoCAD
is also a problem for us.
This happens with LDD 2000i to 2002
but NOT all time.!!!
Users launch AutoCAD because
they need to open two or three drawings
at a time (as reference) and LDD
will not let them (single document mode).
So, instead of opening many instances of LDD
they prefer to launch one LDD
and one AutoCAD session.
This, somehow, messes the registry
--
Saludos, Ing. Jorge Jimenez, SICAD S.A., Costa Rica
"Rad_Cadder" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote in message
news:20528976.1104772345665.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum1.autodesk.com...
Thank you all for your replies:
I'm not here to get on anyone's bad side, all I was after was a general
idea of what it would take to accomplish this task.
Obviously some people think it is possible, others think it is not, so
it
begins to get frustrating when someone shoots you down right at the
start
and/or tells you that their way is the only way to accomplish something.
I think it would serve us all well to remember that our way is not
always
the only way.
Thanx - Rob
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Rad_Cadder
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Tue Jan 04, 2005 9:48 pm Post subject:
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Thanx for the replies:
Just to clarify, we install LDD, and Civil Design which also loads Acad Map. The install is done from a Laptop, seperate from our network server.
We run two profiles, one for acad the other for LDD.
Seperate Autocad and LDD profiles are launched from custom icon's on the desktop. The issue is when the user has autocad open, and then opens LDD the LDD settings overwrite the Autocad settings.
It has never been a problem for us to have several sessions open at the same time. "YET" |
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