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BillZ · Guest

R2205:

Is there a default location where the bitmaps get saved when you hit the save button in the toolbar button editor?

I seem to have bitmaps turning up in couple of different folders on a network system of 6 work stations.

What's the best way to manage these?

TIA

Bill

Jason Piercey · Guest

Place them inside a .dll of the same name as the menu file.

Grab Resource Hacker
http://mysite.verizon.net/~vze2vjds/free.htm

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> What's the best way to manage these?

BillZ · Guest

Thanks

Where do you keep the .dll?

That link is not working for resourse hacker.

Bill

Matt W · Guest

The DLL would be kept in one of the search paths for AutoCAD.

I've posted a copy of ResHacker in the CF NG.

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Jason Piercey · Guest

Try here

http://www.afralisp.com/vbaa/vbadll.htm

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GaryDF · Guest

I have used a dll file and resourse hacker for 4 years mow, works great.
even for autocad 2005 windows 2000

Gary

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Laurie Comerford · Guest

Hi Matt,

With our commercial installations I put the menu DLLs in the same directory
as the MNU file.
AutoCAD creates the MNS, MNR and MNC files in that directory.
I do not need to put this directory on the AutoCAD search path.

As these installations are running on hundreds of computers in hundreds of
independent offices, if it created a problem, I'd soon hear about it.
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Tom Smith · Guest

Bill, I'm not running 2005 yet, but on all previous versions the default save folder has seemed squirrely. I'd guess that it defaults to the start-in folder, whatever that is. Seems random to me & I've never tried to figure out what's happening. When I use this feature, I have to go search to find where Acad threw the BMP.

BillZ · Guest

That's the biggest problem.

Everytime a user opens their AutoCAD each day and see that one of their bitmaps is wrong, they go to the button editor and open the one they want and then they have to hit the save button to go out of the editor, so they can hit apply. Well it seems everytime they hit save, another ICONXXXX.bmp gets created in one or the other of our support folders instead of the folder I created for them.

How do I know which bmp each button is reading from after they do this?

Bill

Tom Smith · Guest

anguilla · Guest

Hi,
meeting the same problem I renamed each bmps with their respective names (from these "ICONxxxx.bmp" names), so that I knew which name belongs to which icon (e.g. "din_form.bmp", "pruf.bmp", etc.)
then I edited our mnu and mns files, changing the links of these icon-bmps, adding full path and new filename in these menufiles.
these all are in the same network-folder.
since then we have only seen the correct bitmaps, not that silly yellow smiling face.

BillZ · Guest

Tom Smith · Guest

Bill, I do a similar thing in a different way (in 2004). Everybody has the
standard Acad menu unaltered, the Express Tools partial, plus a
company-standard partial menu, plus a partial "user menu." They can do
anything they want in the user menu, but they're wasting their time if they
fiddle with the company menu, because their changes will be wiped out next
time I update it. Over the long haul, maybe 1/4 of our users have had any
interest in tweaking their menu at all, and maybe 1/4 of those have done
anything more than make a button or two.

The main reason for the user menu isn't for them to create buttons out of
the blue, it's to let them assemble toolbars that suit their preferences a
bit more, by copying buttons from the other menus' toolbars. That way they
can have the assortment of buttons they want, without altering (for
instance) the Acad menu. But in practice this hasn't seen much utilization.
Only a very small percentage of our users have been "button monkeys." Most
of them are keyboard oriented.

I would focus on what in the world that one user is doing, and start with
the cleanout process I mentioned on his machine. What usually happens with
icon glitches is that the user actually made a (bad) change to the menu, but
didn't see the change until restarting Acad. When they say their icon
changed today, they're really saying they messed it up yesterday. If they're
gonna do this, they should be taught to exit Acad after any toolbar change,
delete the MNC and MNR, and restart Acad in order to see what they *really*
just did. Perhaps then they'll see a pattern in what they're doing wrong.

IMHO, if they're going to program menus, sorry, but they really need to
learn to do it correctly, by naming the BMP themselves, placing it in the
correct folder, manually editing the MNS, the whole 9 yards. There shouldn't
be any ICONXXXX.bmp's anywhere in the picture. My bet is still that the
troubled user has multiple copies of two badly named BMP files in various
locations, and keeps flipping around among them.

BillZ · Guest

Thanks Tom,

I think of our earlier discussion about the read only folders and the partial menus. I guess that didn't work out here.
I'm not a wizard at this stuff and it may be years before I'll have to do it again.. but I'm a bargain for what I charge. 8')

I think what's happening is the one user selected a bitmap from the directory, then hit the save button in the editor. What that apparently does is create another ICONXXXX.bmp in whatever directory the menu sees fit, then the .mns uses that one. It worked that way in R14 anyway and I don't think that part changed.
We inherited some of these ICONXXXX.bmps and I moved them over from R14. That may have been a mistake.
I also see various RCDAXXXX.bmp's now with R2005.

Anyway, I've went through all the bitmaps in the folder and all but a few were in one user.mns or another so not much to clean out.

I think after the dust settles, not much will change around here either, except maybe a few toolbar location moves.

Thanks

Bill

Walt Engle · Guest

For what it's worth, when I make my bitmaps, I give them a very specific name and save them in a separate folder, entitled BMP under my main folder, R2004. Wherever you have all those bmp's, you can move them to one directory (of your choice) and rename them (be sure they are correctly called with new name in your mns
or mnu file). Also, when I make my monthly backup (on CD) I make sure to copy all my lsp, bmp, etc files.

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