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Tom Smith
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Tool bar button bitmaps Reply with quote

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It worked that way in R14 anyway

As far as I know that behavior is still the same, at least through 2004.
I've never exhaustively tested where the heck the icon editor sends its
BMP's, but it does seems arbitrary.

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We inherited some of these ICONXXXX.bmps and I moved them over from R14.
That may have been a mistake.


Not if they work, it's just that the unclear names make it harder to
understand and maintain things. I'd rather see a menu item like:

[_Button("Roof Slope", "slope.bmp", "slope.bmp")]^C^Cslope;

If you could transition to mnemonic names for the BMP's, it makes it easier
to spot when a user has done the "save" thing and created a gibberish
filename. If they are in fact selecting from among available icons, rather
than creating a new one, they shouldn't even be in the icon editor at all,
as I mentioned earlier.

If they did create a new image in the icon editor, and saved it, then you
have a "learning opportunity" where you show them how to find the new BMP,
move it to their user folder, rename it to something understandable, and
edit the MNS file accordingly. The very few of my users who do this have the
routine down pat, and have even been able to carry their personal menus
between versions with very little coaching.

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Walt Engle
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:41 am    Post subject: Re: Tool bar button bitmaps Reply with quote

It is very arbitrary and assigns arbitrary numbers to it UNLESS you give it/them
a spcific name.
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Tom Smith
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 1:03 am    Post subject: Re: Tool bar button bitmaps Reply with quote

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It is very arbitrary and assigns arbitrary numbers to it UNLESS you give
it/them a spcific name.


Exactly. That's why I coach people -- if they're going to use onscreen menu
customizations at all -- to follow through on fixing the BMP filename and
location as I described. Normally, after going through the process once or
twice, they realize they could have skipped the onscreen business altogether
and just done the manual menu edit, since they're going to need to do that
anyway.

Foir the individual partial "user" menus (which is the only thing they're
allowed to edit), I teach them to keep the menu files, all BMP's, and any
lisps associated with their personalizations in their "user" folder. This is
in a subdirectory of Acad, but *not* in the same folder tree as the
company-standard customizations. It's also first on the search path. This
ensures that nothing I do to the standards will affect their
personalizations, as long as they keep them in the correct folder.

All of those who had customized their menu in 2000i were able to simply copy
over their user folder to 2004, menuload their user menu, and (with the
exception of tracking down a few scattered ICONXXXX.bmp files that they
hadn't fixed) they were fully customized and operational in the new version
in just a minute or two.
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BillZ
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 1:51 am    Post subject: Re: Tool bar button bitmaps Reply with quote

Thanks Tom,

I'm understanding this more now.

It's a little hecktic now but I'll work on this as time goes on.

Bill
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