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Jason Piercey
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Thu Dec 30, 2004 3:07 am Post subject:
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We just had a situation here where a heavy polyline
wouldn't extend due to a zero length segment found
at the end. Seems to me that zero length segments
are useless.
Anyone actually use a zero length entity for anything?
Speaking with a co-worker, he thought one could
use something like this to attach xdata (as an example)
but basically obscure it from the users view.
Just curious what others thought about it.
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R. Robert Bell
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Thu Dec 30, 2004 3:22 am Post subject:
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I use zero length segments in some plines to get the type of fit curve I
need. If you ask me to reproduce, I'll just deny this posting. <vbg>
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R. Robert Bell
"Jason Piercey" <Jason AT atreng DOT com> wrote in message
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We just had a situation here where a heavy polyline
wouldn't extend due to a zero length segment found
at the end. Seems to me that zero length segments
are useless.
Anyone actually use a zero length entity for anything?
Speaking with a co-worker, he thought one could
use something like this to attach xdata (as an example)
but basically obscure it from the users view.
Just curious what others thought about it.
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Jason Piercey
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Thu Dec 30, 2004 3:48 am Post subject:
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:)
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"R. Robert Bell" <NOT.RobertB@MWEngineers.com> wrote in message
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> If you ask me to reproduce, I'll just deny this posting. <vbg>
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Josh
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Thu Dec 30, 2004 4:51 am Post subject:
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That's exactly what I <used> to use zero-length segments for...controling
fit curves in plines. However, as per my plea agreement and witness
relocation program, I can't discuss the matter any further. ~:-)
"R. Robert Bell" <NOT.RobertB@MWEngineers.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I use zero length segments in some plines to get the type of fit curve I
need. If you ask me to reproduce, I'll just deny this posting. <vbg
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R. Robert Bell
"Jason Piercey" <Jason AT atreng DOT com> wrote in message
news:41d32aa4$1_1@newsprd01...
We just had a situation here where a heavy polyline
wouldn't extend due to a zero length segment found
at the end. Seems to me that zero length segments
are useless.
Anyone actually use a zero length entity for anything?
Speaking with a co-worker, he thought one could
use something like this to attach xdata (as an example)
but basically obscure it from the users view.
Just curious what others thought about it.
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wkiernan
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Fri Dec 31, 2004 12:27 am Post subject:
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I once used a zero-length line in a title block as something you could snap to the ENDPOINT of. You could use a POINT entity and snap to NODE, but if PDMODE is set to zero the POINT will not appear, or alternatively it could appear as a plus sign or an "x" when all you want to see is a little dot.
I did want the little dot to appear in the drawing, because we had our HP plotter set to conserve paper; even if you told it to plot, say, a 24" x 36" sheet, it would eliminate all the white space on the top, bottom, left and right of the plotted image. By putting a zero-length line at the corners of the page, it would force the plotter to print the page with the white space. (Well, the white space wasn't perfectly white, it had a one-pixel ink dot at the corners.) |
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Tom Smith
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Fri Dec 31, 2004 1:24 am Post subject:
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Ancient history -- I did a similar thing, but without the zero-length line.
I used a defpoints-layer pline representing the sheet edges. This forced the
extents to be where I wanted them, but didn't plot. |
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Jeff Mishler
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Fri Dec 31, 2004 2:01 am Post subject:
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Let's try to keep any reproducing off of this group..... ;-)
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"R. Robert Bell" <NOT.RobertB@MWEngineers.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I use zero length segments in some plines to get the type of fit curve I
need. If you ask me to reproduce, I'll just deny this posting. <vbg
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R. Robert Bell
"Jason Piercey" <Jason AT atreng DOT com> wrote in message
news:41d32aa4$1_1@newsprd01...
We just had a situation here where a heavy polyline
wouldn't extend due to a zero length segment found
at the end. Seems to me that zero length segments
are useless.
Anyone actually use a zero length entity for anything?
Speaking with a co-worker, he thought one could
use something like this to attach xdata (as an example)
but basically obscure it from the users view.
Just curious what others thought about it.
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R. Robert Bell
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Fri Dec 31, 2004 2:12 am Post subject:
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I wondered if anyone would pickup on that pun. <esg>
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R. Robert Bell
"Jeff Mishler" <jeff_m@cadvault.com> wrote in message
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Let's try to keep any reproducing off of this group..... ;-)
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check out www.cadvault.com
"R. Robert Bell" <NOT.RobertB@MWEngineers.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I use zero length segments in some plines to get the type of fit curve I
need. If you ask me to reproduce, I'll just deny this posting. <vbg |
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Matt Stachoni
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Fri Dec 31, 2004 9:14 pm Post subject:
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 15:24:18 -0500, "Tom Smith" <nospam> wrote:
| Quote: | Ancient history -- I did a similar thing, but without the zero-length line.
I used a defpoints-layer pline representing the sheet edges. This forced the
extents to be where I wanted them, but didn't plot.
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Alternatively, you could use a POINT object on the Defpoints layer, which
doesn't respect the PDMODE system variable. It always displays as a little dot,
and gives you the proper extents.
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wkiernan
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Fri Dec 31, 2004 9:56 pm Post subject:
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| yeah, entities on the defpoints layer move the extents of the drawing over, but that's not what I was trying to achieve, the idea was I _did_ want the plotter to print that one-pixel dot. In "paper-saving" mode the plotter shifted the inked area to the corner of the paper if there wasn't that one-pixel _printed_ dot to anchor the plotted image. |
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Daniel J. Altamura, R.A.
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Fri Dec 31, 2004 10:36 pm Post subject:
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Yes, exactly what I have done for years. Recently I discovered that I could
simply screen the dots. This way, they are hardly visible on the plot, but
the plotter "sees" them.
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Altamura Architectural Consulting
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| Quote: | yeah, entities on the defpoints layer move the extents of the drawing
over, but that's not what I was trying to achieve, the idea was I _did_
want the plotter to print that one-pixel dot. In "paper-saving" mode the
plotter shifted the inked area to the corner of the paper if there wasn't
that one-pixel _printed_ dot to anchor the plotted image. |
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Don Reichle
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Sat Jan 01, 2005 12:43 am Post subject:
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And a "screen" of 1 would make them extremely hard to notice. :-)
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"Daniel J. Altamura, R.A." <Altamura@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Yes, exactly what I have done for years. Recently I discovered that I
could
simply screen the dots. This way, they are hardly visible on the plot,
but
the plotter "sees" them.
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Altamura Architectural Consulting
and SoftWorx, Autodesk Authorized Developer
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"wkiernan" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote in message
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yeah, entities on the defpoints layer move the extents of the drawing
over, but that's not what I was trying to achieve, the idea was I _did_
want the plotter to print that one-pixel dot. In "paper-saving" mode
the
plotter shifted the inked area to the corner of the paper if there
wasn't
that one-pixel _printed_ dot to anchor the plotted image.
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