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Chris Gyotar
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 5:43 am    Post subject: AutoCAD to Microstation Reply with quote

Hi,

I recently got hired for a firm which uses microstation. I am trying to
figure out how to use this program. Unless I am missing something this
software is extremly slow, and everything is subpar to that of AutoCAD. Are
there any programs which will change microstations commands to that of
AutoCAD?

Thanks
Chris

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R.K. McSwain
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 6:37 am    Post subject: Re: AutoCAD to Microstation Reply with quote

On 1/3/2005 6:43 PM Chris Gyotar wrote:
Quote:
Hi,

I recently got hired for a firm which uses microstation. I am trying to
figure out how to use this program. Unless I am missing something this
software is extremly slow, and everything is subpar to that of AutoCAD. Are
there any programs which will change microstations commands to that of
AutoCAD?


No offense, but how did you get hired if you don't know how to use the
software? Did they hire you to run Microstation based on your AutoCAD
knowledge? Is your firm going to offer training? Do they care that you
are stumbling through the software, burning billable time?

After answering some of those questions, you might want to step back and
take a look at your new employer and consider whether you want to
continue there....

AFAIK, there are no AutoCAD emulators for Microstation.
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CW
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 7:32 am    Post subject: Re: AutoCAD to Microstation Reply with quote

Microstation users say that about Autocad. Solidworks users say that about
Inventor. It's all a matter of getting used to it.

"Chris Gyotar" <piss@off.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Hi,

I recently got hired for a firm which uses microstation. I am trying to
figure out how to use this program. Unless I am missing something this
software is extremly slow, and everything is subpar to that of AutoCAD.
Are
there any programs which will change microstations commands to that of
AutoCAD?

Thanks
Chris



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Chris Gyotar
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:52 am    Post subject: Re: AutoCAD to Microstation Reply with quote

Quote:
Hi,

I recently got hired for a firm which uses microstation. I am trying to
figure out how to use this program. Unless I am missing something this
software is extremly slow, and everything is subpar to that of AutoCAD.
Are there any programs which will change microstations commands to that
of AutoCAD?


No offense, but how did you get hired if you don't know how to use the
software?

There is very little CAD work in my position.

Did they hire you to run Microstation based on your AutoCAD
Quote:
knowledge?

Exactly so.

Is your firm going to offer training?

Not anything formal. I'm going through user guides and such.

Do they care that you
Quote:
are stumbling through the software, burning billable time?

They said I would get used to it and few people have any formal training in
microstation at this particular office.

Quote:
After answering some of those questions, you might want to step back and
take a look at your new employer and consider whether you want to continue
there....

The experience is well worth fumbling around with new software.


Quote:
AFAIK, there are no AutoCAD emulators for Microstation.

Thanks

Chris
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Chris Gyotar
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:52 am    Post subject: Re: AutoCAD to Microstation Reply with quote

"CW" <cmagers@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
Microstation users say that about Autocad. Solidworks users say that about
Inventor. It's all a matter of getting used to it.


Fair enough, Thanks

Chris
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Keith Wilkinson
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 2:54 pm    Post subject: Re: AutoCAD to Microstation Reply with quote

a bit of patience and you'll soon get the hang of it... once you can use one
cad package well its generally just a case of getting used to the different
interface - usually the methodology is the same. The hardest bit I found to
get used to with Microstation was the 3D side of it...

K.

"Chris Gyotar" <piss@off.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Hi,

I recently got hired for a firm which uses microstation. I am trying
to
figure out how to use this program. Unless I am missing something this
software is extremly slow, and everything is subpar to that of AutoCAD.
Are there any programs which will change microstations commands to that
of AutoCAD?


No offense, but how did you get hired if you don't know how to use the
software?

There is very little CAD work in my position.

Did they hire you to run Microstation based on your AutoCAD
knowledge?

Exactly so.

Is your firm going to offer training?

Not anything formal. I'm going through user guides and such.

Do they care that you
are stumbling through the software, burning billable time?

They said I would get used to it and few people have any formal training
in
microstation at this particular office.

After answering some of those questions, you might want to step back and
take a look at your new employer and consider whether you want to
continue
there....

The experience is well worth fumbling around with new software.

AFAIK, there are no AutoCAD emulators for Microstation.

Thanks

Chris

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Martin Blanke
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 8:15 pm    Post subject: Re: AutoCAD to Microstation Reply with quote

"Chris Gyotar" <piss@off.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Quote:
I recently got hired for a firm which uses microstation. I am trying to
figure out how to use this program. Unless I am missing something
-----------------

Yes you are missing a lot (sorry): the knowledge of how to work with
microstation.
But obviously you are not the only one in your new firm ...

Don't try to use the middle mouse button for panning the view, it's reserved
for other purposes like snapping to elements (I know, this is hard to
believe for all autocad users).

BTW: are you working with microstation V8 or pre-V8?
If V8,
- some things are similar to autocad like layers etc.
- you can work on autocad drawing files without conversion
- you can use autocad commands (see online help).

Microstation is more powerful than autocad, so there is more to learn,
that's it.

Greetings, M.B.
this
Quote:
software is extremly slow, and everything is subpar to that of AutoCAD.
Are
there any programs which will change microstations commands to that of
AutoCAD?

Thanks
Chris

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Michael Bulatovich
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 8:16 pm    Post subject: Re: AutoCAD to Microstation Reply with quote

"Martin Blanke" <nospam@nomail.com> wrote in message
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"Chris Gyotar" <piss@off.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:5FlCd.15336$Y_4.1421241@read2.cgocable.net...
I recently got hired for a firm which uses microstation. I am trying to
figure out how to use this program. Unless I am missing something
-----------------
Yes you are missing a lot (sorry): the knowledge of how to work with
microstation.
But obviously you are not the only one in your new firm ...

Don't try to use the middle mouse button for panning the view, it's
reserved
for other purposes like snapping to elements (I know, this is hard to
believe for all autocad users).

Not this one. Everyone I know uses the middle button for snapping.
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Dave Jones
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:18 am    Post subject: Re: AutoCAD to Microstation Reply with quote

"Michael Bulatovich" <Please@dont.try> wrote in message
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"Martin Blanke" <nospam@nomail.com> wrote in message
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"Chris Gyotar" <piss@off.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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I recently got hired for a firm which uses microstation. I am trying
to
figure out how to use this program. Unless I am missing something
-----------------
Yes you are missing a lot (sorry): the knowledge of how to work with
microstation.
But obviously you are not the only one in your new firm ...

Don't try to use the middle mouse button for panning the view, it's
reserved
for other purposes like snapping to elements (I know, this is hard to
believe for all autocad users).

Not this one. Everyone I know uses the middle button for snapping.


Hi, you don't know me but... :) I use Ctrl-Right click for osnaps and Ctrl
is programmed on my #2 mouse button. Have been doing it that way since
before wheelies were invented ...
Dave
DDP
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Chris Gyotar
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:36 am    Post subject: Re: AutoCAD to Microstation Reply with quote

"Martin Blanke" <nospam@nomail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

"Chris Gyotar" <piss@off.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:5FlCd.15336$Y_4.1421241@read2.cgocable.net...
I recently got hired for a firm which uses microstation. I am trying to
figure out how to use this program. Unless I am missing something
-----------------
Yes you are missing a lot (sorry): the knowledge of how to work with
microstation.
But obviously you are not the only one in your new firm ...

Don't try to use the middle mouse button for panning the view, it's
reserved
for other purposes like snapping to elements (I know, this is hard to
believe for all autocad users).

Ah an interesting tidbit of info!



Quote:
BTW: are you working with microstation V8 or pre-V8?

V8

Quote:
If V8,
- some things are similar to autocad like layers etc.
- you can work on autocad drawing files without conversion
- you can use autocad commands (see online help).

Microstation is more powerful than autocad, so there is more to learn,
that's it.

Ha...thanks

I wrote that post after only playing around with a drawing for 10 minutes.
I played with it for another half an hour today and I think I'm starting to
get the hang of it

Quote:

Greetings, M.B.
this
software is extremly slow, and everything is subpar to that of AutoCAD.
Are
there any programs which will change microstations commands to that of
AutoCAD?

Chris
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Michael Bulatovich
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 7:11 pm    Post subject: Re: AutoCAD to Microstation Reply with quote

I know you.
You polish golf clubs on TV don't you?

"Dave Jones" <spamless@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Michael Bulatovich" <Please@dont.try> wrote in message
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"Martin Blanke" <nospam@nomail.com> wrote in message
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"Chris Gyotar" <piss@off.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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I recently got hired for a firm which uses microstation. I am
trying
to
figure out how to use this program. Unless I am missing something
-----------------
Yes you are missing a lot (sorry): the knowledge of how to work with
microstation.
But obviously you are not the only one in your new firm ...

Don't try to use the middle mouse button for panning the view, it's
reserved
for other purposes like snapping to elements (I know, this is hard to
believe for all autocad users).

Not this one. Everyone I know uses the middle button for snapping.


Hi, you don't know me but... :) I use Ctrl-Right click for osnaps and
Ctrl
is programmed on my #2 mouse button. Have been doing it that way since
before wheelies were invented ...
Dave
DDP

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Dave Jones
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:19 pm    Post subject: Re: AutoCAD to Microstation Reply with quote

no, I usually sit in a chair when I polish my golf clubs...

"Michael Bulatovich" <Please@dont.try> wrote in message
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I know you.
You polish golf clubs on TV don't you?

"Dave Jones" <spamless@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Michael Bulatovich" <Please@dont.try> wrote in message
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"Martin Blanke" <nospam@nomail.com> wrote in message
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"Chris Gyotar" <piss@off.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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I recently got hired for a firm which uses microstation. I am
trying
to
figure out how to use this program. Unless I am missing something
-----------------
Yes you are missing a lot (sorry): the knowledge of how to work with
microstation.
But obviously you are not the only one in your new firm ...

Don't try to use the middle mouse button for panning the view, it's
reserved
for other purposes like snapping to elements (I know, this is hard
to
believe for all autocad users).

Not this one. Everyone I know uses the middle button for snapping.


Hi, you don't know me but... :) I use Ctrl-Right click for osnaps and
Ctrl
is programmed on my #2 mouse button. Have been doing it that way since
before wheelies were invented ...
Dave
DDP


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Cadalot
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 11:39 pm    Post subject: Re: AutoCAD to Microstation Reply with quote

Help For CAD Users Moving To MicroStation - tips on using the Alias
Manager application, Joe Allen, MSM Online, December 20, 2004
(requires free registration)

https://loginnet.bentley.com/Login.aspx?login=U2Vzc2lvblBlbmRpbmdVUkw9aHR0cCUyNTNBJTI1MkYlMjUyRnd3dyUyNTJFbXNtb25saW5lJTI1MkVjb20lMjUyRmNsaWVudCUyNTVGc2VydmVyJTI1MkZkZWZhdWx0JTI1MkVjZm0lMjUzRm9iamVjdGlkJTI1M0RGRkJBOTNFQyUyNTJEODI4OSUyNTJENDY5NiUyNTJEQUQwQjFBQjMwRDI1M0VCMSUyNTI2bWV0aG9kJTI1M0RkaXNwbGF5JlNlc3Npb25QZW5kaW5nRG9tYWluPW1zbW9ubGluZS5jb20=


On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 19:43:45 -0500, "Chris Gyotar" <piss@off.com>
wrote:

Quote:
Hi,

I recently got hired for a firm which uses microstation. I am trying to
figure out how to use this program. Unless I am missing something this
software is extremly slow, and everything is subpar to that of AutoCAD. Are
there any programs which will change microstations commands to that of
AutoCAD?

Thanks
Chris
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Bellsouth News
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 3:01 am    Post subject: Re: AutoCAD to Microstation Reply with quote

I haven't used it in a while myself, but Microstation is a powerful
program. But a beast of a program at the same time. Takes a lot of power to
run it right.


"Keith Wilkinson" <keith@tensarc.co.uk> wrote in message
news:creamb$r08$1@hercules.btinternet.com...
Quote:
a bit of patience and you'll soon get the hang of it... once you can use
one
cad package well its generally just a case of getting used to the
different
interface - usually the methodology is the same. The hardest bit I found
to
get used to with Microstation was the 3D side of it...

K.

"Chris Gyotar" <piss@off.com> wrote in message
news:w2rCd.15378$Y_4.1445883@read2.cgocable.net...
Hi,

I recently got hired for a firm which uses microstation. I am trying
to
figure out how to use this program. Unless I am missing something
this
software is extremly slow, and everything is subpar to that of
AutoCAD.
Are there any programs which will change microstations commands to
that
of AutoCAD?


No offense, but how did you get hired if you don't know how to use the
software?

There is very little CAD work in my position.

Did they hire you to run Microstation based on your AutoCAD
knowledge?

Exactly so.

Is your firm going to offer training?

Not anything formal. I'm going through user guides and such.

Do they care that you
are stumbling through the software, burning billable time?

They said I would get used to it and few people have any formal training
in
microstation at this particular office.

After answering some of those questions, you might want to step back
and
take a look at your new employer and consider whether you want to
continue
there....

The experience is well worth fumbling around with new software.

AFAIK, there are no AutoCAD emulators for Microstation.

Thanks

Chris



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Chris Gyotar
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 4:24 am    Post subject: Re: AutoCAD to Microstation Reply with quote

Thanks,

By now I'm used to it...but I must say this is just a cheap and porely
thought out version of ACAD. The largest deficiency I find is the lack of
the command prompt. Some may say it is more powerful that ACAD but I would
wager I can draw circles (no pun intended) around someone using Microstation
even with my "inferior" AutoCAD 2005...

Chris


"kelly Thib" <kellyt@datuma.com> wrote in message
news:10vdcouc42156c2@corp.supernews.com...
Quote:
Hey, I feel your pain. I've used Autocad for 15 years. We got one job
with
Texas DOT. It has to be done in Microstation. If you are using V8, you
can
program the function keys. This saved my life.
You can customized yours by clicking on the pull down: Workspace then
function keys. Open that and this is where you do this. The trick is
figuring out how to word the command.
If you can get this to work, it should simplify your learning curve.

Here is my customized function key file.

Copy this to your Bentley\workspace\users directory.
I have F1 is 'select
F2 - Zoom window
F3 Pan
F4 zoom out
F5 zoom in
F6 explode
F7 edit text
F8 zoom previous
F9 Lengthen command
F10 erase
F11 zooms extents
F12 saves
Shift+F Fillets
Alt +F1 copy
Alt + F2 move


"Chris Gyotar" <piss@off.com> wrote in message
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Hi,

I recently got hired for a firm which uses microstation. I am trying to
figure out how to use this program. Unless I am missing something this
software is extremly slow, and everything is subpar to that of AutoCAD.
Are
there any programs which will change microstations commands to that of
AutoCAD?

Thanks
Chris



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