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Rudd
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Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:31 pm Post subject:
why Bentley, why???????? |
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great news, I can now produce PDF's directly from ustation. I just
have to upgrade to v8 2004. No prob, we have select! Off to the
select website, where I realize, I have to start using select server
2004 to use v8 2004. All our licences reside rather happily on the
individual machines, and I hear Select Server can be a PITA to set up,
and we as a firm, #1, don't have room in our schedule for downtime
while #2, I, a designer, who has to double as the IT person, figures
out how to set it up.
Why couldn't v8 2004 live independently of Select Server like all
previous versions of v8? There better be a REAL good reason.
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Phil Chouinard [Bentley]
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Tue Aug 10, 2004 12:34 am Post subject:
Re: why Bentley, why???????? |
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Not sure where the idea/rumor that MicroStation V8 2004 Edition _requires_ SELECTserver, but you can be assured that is simply not
true. MicroStation V8 2004 Edition works with SELECTserver (quite well, too...) but it also can work with nodelocked licenses.
BTW, the time that it takes to download, install, and get SELECTserver running is usually a few minutes.
FWIW, we host and monitor a number of discussion groups specifically related to Bentley products and services. If you haven't yet,
you might want to check out http://selectservices.bentley.com/discussion/ for some helpful information regarding them. HTH
Phil Chouinard [www.Bentley.com]
"Rudd" <rudd@cogdellmendrala.com> wrote in message news:2612a9c4.0408091031.b2f9f87@posting.google.com...
| Quote: | great news, I can now produce PDF's directly from ustation. I just
have to upgrade to v8 2004. No prob, we have select! Off to the
select website, where I realize, I have to start using select server
2004 to use v8 2004. All our licences reside rather happily on the
individual machines, and I hear Select Server can be a PITA to set up,
and we as a firm, #1, don't have room in our schedule for downtime
while #2, I, a designer, who has to double as the IT person, figures
out how to set it up.
Why couldn't v8 2004 live independently of Select Server like all
previous versions of v8? There better be a REAL good reason. |
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Rudd
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Tue Aug 10, 2004 11:19 pm Post subject:
Re: why Bentley, why???????? |
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I'm happy to hear that. I would think that the "rumor/idea" got
started when folks went to d/l 2004 off the select site, where it
clearly states that SS2004 is required for v8 2004.
I've condsidered going to SS at some point in the future when I'm not
busy getting buildings out the door.
Thanks
Rudd
"Phil Chouinard [Bentley]" <phil.chouinard@bentley.com> wrote in message news:<4117df0e$1@news3.prod-bent.dmz>...
| Quote: | Not sure where the idea/rumor that MicroStation V8 2004 Edition _requires_ SELECTserver, but you can be assured that is simply not
true. MicroStation V8 2004 Edition works with SELECTserver (quite well, too...) but it also can work with nodelocked licenses. |
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BG250
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Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:09 pm Post subject:
Re: why Bentley, why???????? |
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We use SELECTserver for Bentley products and it is works great. With the
floating licenses, you can own less copies of the application, yet have it a
available to whoever needs it. You have Microstation available on more
computers hand have less licenses. For example, you can have it on a
person's computer who rarely uses it. Since the licenses float, they can use
one if available. In my case, we have a remote office connected via virtual
private network. They can get a license from the server without me having to
dedicate a license to their machine. It lowers the cost of ownership for us.
It is not that hard to setup. Just take an old Pentium II box or some
machine to be the server. Some people worry if the server crashes. If it
does, just setup another machine, give it the same computer name and drop
the license file on it and away you go. The license file is just a text file
with an encryption key for all the software you purchased rights to use.
Just keep multiple copies for safe keeping.
Now the BAD news. This may just be a rumor, but I hear Bentley may be doing
away with floating licenses. The only possible reason I can think of is
because it is so successful! Without floating licenses, you would have to
purchase a license for each machine it is installed on. The ploy is
obviously to create better revenue for Bentley. Again this may be a rumor or
a misunderstanding on my part. I hope so. We are considering alternative
products if it turns out true.
BG
"Rudd" <rudd@cogdellmendrala.com> wrote in message
news:2612a9c4.0408101119.77322c86@posting.google.com...
| Quote: | I'm happy to hear that. I would think that the "rumor/idea" got
started when folks went to d/l 2004 off the select site, where it
clearly states that SS2004 is required for v8 2004.
I've condsidered going to SS at some point in the future when I'm not
busy getting buildings out the door.
Thanks
Rudd
"Phil Chouinard [Bentley]" <phil.chouinard@bentley.com> wrote in message
news:<4117df0e$1@news3.prod-bent.dmz>...
Not sure where the idea/rumor that MicroStation V8 2004 Edition
_requires_ SELECTserver, but you can be assured that is simply not
true. MicroStation V8 2004 Edition works with SELECTserver (quite well,
too...) but it also can work with nodelocked licenses. |
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Phil Chouinard [Bentley]
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Fri Aug 13, 2004 10:24 pm Post subject:
Re: why Bentley, why???????? |
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<This may just be a rumor, but I hear Bentley may be doing away with floating licenses.>
Let's put this one to rest, too -- it _is_ just a rumor... the fact is that we have no intention at this time to do away with
concurrent licensing for MicroStation and MicroStation-based applications. Nor do we require SELECTserver in order to run
MicroStation. What we do *require* is that if you are using MicroStation V8 2004 Edition with SELECTserver, then you should be using
SELECTserver 2004 Edition (hence the *Prerequisite* language on SELECTservices Online Web Downloads).
And I will also mention that we host and monitor a number of discussion groups specifically related to Bentley products and
services. If you haven't yet, you might want to check out http://selectservices.bentley.com/discussion/ for some helpful information
regarding them. HTH
Phil Chouinard [www.Bentley.com]
"BG250" <anon@anon.com> wrote in message news:10hk2vm98vdd782@corp.supernews.com...
| Quote: | We use SELECTserver for Bentley products and it is works great. With the
floating licenses, you can own less copies of the application, yet have it a
available to whoever needs it. You have Microstation available on more
computers hand have less licenses. For example, you can have it on a
person's computer who rarely uses it. Since the licenses float, they can use
one if available. In my case, we have a remote office connected via virtual
private network. They can get a license from the server without me having to
dedicate a license to their machine. It lowers the cost of ownership for us.
It is not that hard to setup. Just take an old Pentium II box or some
machine to be the server. Some people worry if the server crashes. If it
does, just setup another machine, give it the same computer name and drop
the license file on it and away you go. The license file is just a text file
with an encryption key for all the software you purchased rights to use.
Just keep multiple copies for safe keeping.
Now the BAD news. This may just be a rumor, but I hear Bentley may be doing
away with floating licenses. The only possible reason I can think of is
because it is so successful! Without floating licenses, you would have to
purchase a license for each machine it is installed on. The ploy is
obviously to create better revenue for Bentley. Again this may be a rumor or
a misunderstanding on my part. I hope so. We are considering alternative
products if it turns out true.
BG
"Rudd" <rudd@cogdellmendrala.com> wrote in message
news:2612a9c4.0408101119.77322c86@posting.google.com...
I'm happy to hear that. I would think that the "rumor/idea" got
started when folks went to d/l 2004 off the select site, where it
clearly states that SS2004 is required for v8 2004.
I've condsidered going to SS at some point in the future when I'm not
busy getting buildings out the door.
Thanks
Rudd
"Phil Chouinard [Bentley]" <phil.chouinard@bentley.com> wrote in message
news:<4117df0e$1@news3.prod-bent.dmz>...
Not sure where the idea/rumor that MicroStation V8 2004 Edition
_requires_ SELECTserver, but you can be assured that is simply not
true. MicroStation V8 2004 Edition works with SELECTserver (quite well,
too...) but it also can work with nodelocked licenses.
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BG250
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Tue Aug 17, 2004 3:13 pm Post subject:
Re: why Bentley, why???????? |
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Would this be true for AutoPLANT products as well?
"Phil Chouinard [Bentley]" <phil.chouinard@bentley.com> wrote in message
news:411d06a9$1@news3.prod-bent.dmz...
| Quote: | This may just be a rumor, but I hear Bentley may be doing away with
floating licenses.
Let's put this one to rest, too -- it _is_ just a rumor... the fact is
that we have no intention at this time to do away with
concurrent licensing for MicroStation and MicroStation-based applications.
Nor do we require SELECTserver in order to run
MicroStation. What we do *require* is that if you are using MicroStation
V8 2004 Edition with SELECTserver, then you should be using
SELECTserver 2004 Edition (hence the *Prerequisite* language on
SELECTservices Online Web Downloads).
And I will also mention that we host and monitor a number of discussion
groups specifically related to Bentley products and
services. If you haven't yet, you might want to check out
http://selectservices.bentley.com/discussion/ for some helpful information
regarding them. HTH
Phil Chouinard [www.Bentley.com]
"BG250" <anon@anon.com> wrote in message
news:10hk2vm98vdd782@corp.supernews.com...
We use SELECTserver for Bentley products and it is works great. With the
floating licenses, you can own less copies of the application, yet have
it a
available to whoever needs it. You have Microstation available on more
computers hand have less licenses. For example, you can have it on a
person's computer who rarely uses it. Since the licenses float, they can
use
one if available. In my case, we have a remote office connected via
virtual
private network. They can get a license from the server without me
having to
dedicate a license to their machine. It lowers the cost of ownership for
us.
It is not that hard to setup. Just take an old Pentium II box or some
machine to be the server. Some people worry if the server crashes. If it
does, just setup another machine, give it the same computer name and
drop
the license file on it and away you go. The license file is just a text
file
with an encryption key for all the software you purchased rights to use.
Just keep multiple copies for safe keeping.
Now the BAD news. This may just be a rumor, but I hear Bentley may be
doing
away with floating licenses. The only possible reason I can think of is
because it is so successful! Without floating licenses, you would have
to
purchase a license for each machine it is installed on. The ploy is
obviously to create better revenue for Bentley. Again this may be a
rumor or
a misunderstanding on my part. I hope so. We are considering alternative
products if it turns out true.
BG
"Rudd" <rudd@cogdellmendrala.com> wrote in message
news:2612a9c4.0408101119.77322c86@posting.google.com...
I'm happy to hear that. I would think that the "rumor/idea" got
started when folks went to d/l 2004 off the select site, where it
clearly states that SS2004 is required for v8 2004.
I've condsidered going to SS at some point in the future when I'm not
busy getting buildings out the door.
Thanks
Rudd
"Phil Chouinard [Bentley]" <phil.chouinard@bentley.com> wrote in
message
news:<4117df0e$1@news3.prod-bent.dmz>...
Not sure where the idea/rumor that MicroStation V8 2004 Edition
_requires_ SELECTserver, but you can be assured that is simply not
true. MicroStation V8 2004 Edition works with SELECTserver (quite
well,
too...) but it also can work with nodelocked licenses.
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Phil Chouinard [Bentley]
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Wed Aug 18, 2004 4:33 am Post subject:
Re: why Bentley, why???????? |
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You should post this question to the bentley.autoplant discussion group -- check out http://selectservices.bentley.com/discussion/
for some helpful information regarding the Bentley discussion groups. HTH
Phil Chouinard [www.Bentley.com]
"BG250" <anon@anon.com> wrote in message news:10i3q11bi8eqp7b@corp.supernews.com...
| Quote: | Would this be true for AutoPLANT products as well?
"Phil Chouinard [Bentley]" <phil.chouinard@bentley.com> wrote in message
news:411d06a9$1@news3.prod-bent.dmz...
This may just be a rumor, but I hear Bentley may be doing away with
floating licenses.
Let's put this one to rest, too -- it _is_ just a rumor... the fact is
that we have no intention at this time to do away with
concurrent licensing for MicroStation and MicroStation-based applications.
Nor do we require SELECTserver in order to run
MicroStation. What we do *require* is that if you are using MicroStation
V8 2004 Edition with SELECTserver, then you should be using
SELECTserver 2004 Edition (hence the *Prerequisite* language on
SELECTservices Online Web Downloads).
And I will also mention that we host and monitor a number of discussion
groups specifically related to Bentley products and
services. If you haven't yet, you might want to check out
http://selectservices.bentley.com/discussion/ for some helpful information
regarding them. HTH
Phil Chouinard [www.Bentley.com]
"BG250" <anon@anon.com> wrote in message
news:10hk2vm98vdd782@corp.supernews.com...
We use SELECTserver for Bentley products and it is works great. With the
floating licenses, you can own less copies of the application, yet have
it a
available to whoever needs it. You have Microstation available on more
computers hand have less licenses. For example, you can have it on a
person's computer who rarely uses it. Since the licenses float, they can
use
one if available. In my case, we have a remote office connected via
virtual
private network. They can get a license from the server without me
having to
dedicate a license to their machine. It lowers the cost of ownership for
us.
It is not that hard to setup. Just take an old Pentium II box or some
machine to be the server. Some people worry if the server crashes. If it
does, just setup another machine, give it the same computer name and
drop
the license file on it and away you go. The license file is just a text
file
with an encryption key for all the software you purchased rights to use.
Just keep multiple copies for safe keeping.
Now the BAD news. This may just be a rumor, but I hear Bentley may be
doing
away with floating licenses. The only possible reason I can think of is
because it is so successful! Without floating licenses, you would have
to
purchase a license for each machine it is installed on. The ploy is
obviously to create better revenue for Bentley. Again this may be a
rumor or
a misunderstanding on my part. I hope so. We are considering alternative
products if it turns out true.
BG
"Rudd" <rudd@cogdellmendrala.com> wrote in message
news:2612a9c4.0408101119.77322c86@posting.google.com...
I'm happy to hear that. I would think that the "rumor/idea" got
started when folks went to d/l 2004 off the select site, where it
clearly states that SS2004 is required for v8 2004.
I've condsidered going to SS at some point in the future when I'm not
busy getting buildings out the door.
Thanks
Rudd
"Phil Chouinard [Bentley]" <phil.chouinard@bentley.com> wrote in
message
news:<4117df0e$1@news3.prod-bent.dmz>...
Not sure where the idea/rumor that MicroStation V8 2004 Edition
_requires_ SELECTserver, but you can be assured that is simply not
true. MicroStation V8 2004 Edition works with SELECTserver (quite
well,
too...) but it also can work with nodelocked licenses.
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