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Jeroen
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 11:23 pm    Post subject: Drawing on scale Reply with quote

I wanna open a template ( For example an A3 ) and fil in the box with
drawing name, number and scale etc.
Than i want to draw my drawing at the right scale. so when i choose for 1:50
i want to draw 1:50 without counting myself
So when i draw a line of 100 i want to give in autocad 100 but the drawing
must be the 1:50 scale

What is the best way to do this ??

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David Hicks
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Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:00 am    Post subject: Re: Drawing on scale Reply with quote

Why make life difficult

draw your model full size and then use one of the two following options

1) Place your drawing sheet around the model in model space. If you want
scale 50:1 then make your title block and frame 50 times bigger than your
paper size

2) transfer your model to paper space and print out that way

Drawing to scale ceased with the drawing board IMHO
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Paul Turvill
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Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:52 am    Post subject: Re: Drawing on scale Reply with quote

You're not likely to find a reasonable way to do what you're suggesting.

You should *always* draw your model at 1:1 (full size). Scaling should be
done only when you plot. Put your titleblock in paper space (a Layout), also
at 1:1; create a viewport, and zoom your model to the correct scale in the
viewport (zoom / 1/nnXP), then plot 1:1.
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>i want to draw 1:50 without counting myself

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JP
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 3:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Drawing on scale Reply with quote

We have a routine made for that.
In Modelspace we select the papersize and scale.
A 'paper' is created and scale factor is set (dimscale).
The scale factor is only needed for hatches, linetypes text and dims, you
work in a 1:1 model.
When ready, create a layout (wich is 1:1) and use the scale factor in the
viewport.
That's it, simple.

Jan

p.s.
nederlander?

"Jeroen" <balkjeNO@SPAMxs4all.nl> schreef in bericht
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Quote:
I wanna open a template ( For example an A3 ) and fil in the box with
drawing name, number and scale etc.
Than i want to draw my drawing at the right scale. so when i choose for
1:50
i want to draw 1:50 without counting myself
So when i draw a line of 100 i want to give in autocad 100 but the drawing
must be the 1:50 scale

What is the best way to do this ??

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Jeroen
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 10:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Drawing on scale Reply with quote

Ja Nederlander !!


"JP" <ergens@nergens.nl> schreef in bericht
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We have a routine made for that.
In Modelspace we select the papersize and scale.
A 'paper' is created and scale factor is set (dimscale).
The scale factor is only needed for hatches, linetypes text and dims, you
work in a 1:1 model.
When ready, create a layout (wich is 1:1) and use the scale factor in the
viewport.
That's it, simple.

Jan

p.s.
nederlander?

"Jeroen" <balkjeNO@SPAMxs4all.nl> schreef in bericht
news:41b9e865$0$7154$e4fe514c@dreader18.news.xs4all.nl...
I wanna open a template ( For example an A3 ) and fil in the box with
drawing name, number and scale etc.
Than i want to draw my drawing at the right scale. so when i choose for
1:50
i want to draw 1:50 without counting myself
So when i draw a line of 100 i want to give in autocad 100 but the
drawing
must be the 1:50 scale

What is the best way to do this ??



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JP
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 12:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Drawing on scale Reply with quote

Quote:
Ja Nederlander !!

'Praat' makkelijker.
Ik hoop dat het verhaal een beetje duidelijk was.
Zoniet, laten weten.

Groet,
Jan
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uNkulunkulu
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 2:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Drawing on scale Reply with quote

"JP" <ergens@nergens.nl> wrote in message news:cpm5tv$7n1$1@reader08.wxs.nl...
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: > Ja Nederlander !!
:
: 'Praat' makkelijker.
: Ik hoop dat het verhaal een beetje duidelijk was.
: Zoniet, laten weten.
:
: Groet,
: Jan
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:

Heeltemaal duidelijk.


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JP
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Drawing on scale Reply with quote

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Cadalot
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Drawing on scale Reply with quote

I had one of those and the wheels fell off!

On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 12:12:01 +0100, "JP" <ergens@nergens.nl> wrote:

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Heeltemaal duidelijk.

uNkulunkulu
uMvelinqangi
Mina bona wena
mina bona lo mombi yena lo shatini
Skat lo Boss yena fika, nika yena iwhisky


Dat bedoel ik! ;-))
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David Hicks
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 9:07 am    Post subject: Re: Drawing on scale Reply with quote

I assume you mean his brain JP, because clearly something has come off the
tracks
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designer
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:06 am    Post subject: Re: Drawing on scale Reply with quote

Perhaps it's being brought up on a drawing board, but I've always thought it
rather odd all the convolutions necessary when you have to draw at 1:1 then
have to set up sheets and scale bits accordingly (I've lost count of
drawings seen with dotted lines appearing solid because they weren't
properly scaled).
Would have seemed more logical to have a programme to draw on a sheet size
at a given scale, always knowing that if you run out of sheet area you can
select a bigger sheet or smaller scale without having to rub out what you've
already draw (like on a board).
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Michael Bulatovich
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:10 am    Post subject: Re: Drawing on scale Reply with quote

There are programs out there that work that way, and
many firms still put their titleblocks in modelspace, which
amounts to the same thing, more or less.

Once Adesk brought out plot styles I think they finally
made it possible to exploit the plotting-the-same-line-at-different-scales
potential of their approach, but it seems to me that few use it. It
could be that they have reached the practical limits of what the
average cad operator can comprehend and implement.

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"designer" <designer@dolphin-ds.com> wrote in message
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Perhaps it's being brought up on a drawing board, but I've always thought
it
rather odd all the convolutions necessary when you have to draw at 1:1
then
have to set up sheets and scale bits accordingly (I've lost count of
drawings seen with dotted lines appearing solid because they weren't
properly scaled).
Would have seemed more logical to have a programme to draw on a sheet
size
at a given scale, always knowing that if you run out of sheet area you can
select a bigger sheet or smaller scale without having to rub out what
you've
already draw (like on a board).

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Paul Turvill
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 2:49 am    Post subject: Re: Drawing on scale Reply with quote

This is the 21st Century. The ability to "build" a full-size model far
outweighs the "convolutions" (which are really a non-issue for anyone who
really understands and makes effective use of CAD) required to make decent
plots.
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Perhaps it's being brought up on a drawing board, but I've always thought
it
rather odd all the convolutions necessary when you have to draw at 1:1
then
have to set up sheets and scale bits accordingly
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designer
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 3:21 am    Post subject: Re: Drawing on scale Reply with quote

"Draw" not "build" in a 2D world where most people still read paper drawings
and plans that Brunel would have understood, 21st century or not.
If its a non-issue then why do I see so many bad drawings? It must be too
difficult for the average CAD driver.
I think its a hangover from early programmes when that was the only way to
do it (like the origin at the bottom left hand corner rather than the centre
of the paper that any draughtsman would use).



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Quote:
This is the 21st Century. The ability to "build" a full-size model far
outweighs the "convolutions" (which are really a non-issue for anyone who
really understands and makes effective use of CAD) required to make decent
plots.
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Paul Turvill
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 3:27 am    Post subject: Re: Drawing on scale Reply with quote

I would consider any CAD drawing made at other than 1:1 a "bad" drawing.
I've been associated with design and drafting probably since before you were
born, and I can tell you that "bad" drawings most certainly didn't originate
with CAD. There have been "bad" drawings since pencil was first laid to
vellum, or linen, or whatever. Bad drafters make bad drawings, whether they
use CAD or not. Good drafters generally make good drawings, and CAD is
merely a tool to help them do it better and faster.

You're letting your perceptions be colored by your reluctance to learn to
properly use the tools you have available.

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Quote:
"Draw" not "build" in a 2D world where most people still read paper
drawings
and plans that Brunel would have understood, 21st century or not.
If its a non-issue then why do I see so many bad drawings? It must be too
difficult for the average CAD driver.
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