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Bjorn Ljungdahl
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:22 pm Post subject:
Parameter asking order in .frm files |
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Hi,
I wonder if there is a way to set the order ni which parameters
are 'asked' when I create a drawing.
I have several fields that I want the program to fill in the
drawing, but the order ProE asks me for the information
seem random.
For example I want it to ask me for company name, part
name, designer etc in that order, but it asks me for part
name, designer, company name, and I can't get it to change
the order.
I even tried to create the parameters in a special order when
I create .frm file, but it doesn't seem to help.
Any suggestions?
regards
Bjorn
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David Janes
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Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:43 pm Post subject:
Re: Parameter asking order in .frm files |
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: "Bjorn Ljungdahl" <bjorn.ljungdahl@telia.nospam.com> wrote
: Hi,
:
: I wonder if there is a way to set the order ni which parameters
: are 'asked' when I create a drawing.
Not that I'm aware of. If these owere repeat region parameters, it would be
aidifferent story, of course. My general reaction is to wonder why they are being
asked. I've seen it before, but only in the context that the parameters didn't
exist in tghe model or existed in the model but contained no values.
: I have several fields that I want the program to fill in the
: drawing, but the order ProE asks me for the information
: seem random.
: For example I want it to ask me for company name, part
: name, designer etc in that order, but it asks me for part
: name, designer, company name, and I can't get it to change
: the order.
A valuable source of information on this is the Help section on Pro/DETAILING.
Check out System parameters: in the first place, what you are calling part name is
already available as MODEL_NAME, picked up by the system, no 'asking', no user
input required. Further, something consistently used, like company name, ought to
be placed, with the proper value, in the start part. The aim of much of this,
including standard notes and most of the system parameters, is to 1) eliminate the
tedium and time required to manually fill in parameter values; and 2) to eliminate
as much user error as possible.
: I even tried to create the parameters in a special order when
: I create .frm file, but it doesn't seem to help.
:
: Any suggestions?
:
Do as much of the parameter filling in the model/assembly. Create all the needed
parameters in the start parts. Get people used to going to 'Tools>Parameters' and
filling in parameter values. If parts appear in assemblies, you can also set up
the Model tree to show the parameters which need to be filled in and use the tree
for data input, since it lists all the parts. An alternative is to create the
prompts with Pro/PROGRAM (in the Input section where you have complete control of
things like the order in which users are prompted). If you do this in the start
part and have it ask when the part is opened and first named, this carries through
the assemblies and drawings.
David Janes |
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Brooke
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Posted:
Sat Nov 27, 2004 12:16 am Post subject:
Re: Parameter asking order in .frm files |
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I use parameters to fill out the title block in drawings. There are a few
steps required, but once you have it set up it works great.
1) Create format with tables and parameters.
2) Create drawing template using format with default parameters
After you have the drawing template created with the default parameters all
you have to do is create a new drawing using the template. To modify the
parameters choose Edit-Value and click on the cell in the drawing that you
want to modify. This way is doesn't matter what the parameter order is.
Bye
"David Janes" <djanes@cox.net.invorrid> wrote in message
news:N3Jpd.128441$cJ3.113806@fed1read06...
| Quote: | : "Bjorn Ljungdahl" <bjorn.ljungdahl@telia.nospam.com> wrote
: Hi,
:
: I wonder if there is a way to set the order ni which parameters
: are 'asked' when I create a drawing.
Not that I'm aware of. If these owere repeat region parameters, it would
be
aidifferent story, of course. My general reaction is to wonder why they
are being
asked. I've seen it before, but only in the context that the parameters
didn't
exist in tghe model or existed in the model but contained no values.
: I have several fields that I want the program to fill in the
: drawing, but the order ProE asks me for the information
: seem random.
: For example I want it to ask me for company name, part
: name, designer etc in that order, but it asks me for part
: name, designer, company name, and I can't get it to change
: the order.
A valuable source of information on this is the Help section on
Pro/DETAILING.
Check out System parameters: in the first place, what you are calling part
name is
already available as MODEL_NAME, picked up by the system, no 'asking', no
user
input required. Further, something consistently used, like company name,
ought to
be placed, with the proper value, in the start part. The aim of much of
this,
including standard notes and most of the system parameters, is to 1)
eliminate the
tedium and time required to manually fill in parameter values; and 2) to
eliminate
as much user error as possible.
: I even tried to create the parameters in a special order when
: I create .frm file, but it doesn't seem to help.
:
: Any suggestions?
:
Do as much of the parameter filling in the model/assembly. Create all the
needed
parameters in the start parts. Get people used to going to
'Tools>Parameters' and
filling in parameter values. If parts appear in assemblies, you can also
set up
the Model tree to show the parameters which need to be filled in and use
the tree
for data input, since it lists all the parts. An alternative is to create
the
prompts with Pro/PROGRAM (in the Input section where you have complete
control of
things like the order in which users are prompted). If you do this in the
start
part and have it ask when the part is opened and first named, this carries
through
the assemblies and drawings.
David Janes
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Bjorn Ljungdahl
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Posted:
Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Parameter asking order in .frm files |
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"Brooke" <Brooke@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I use parameters to fill out the title block in drawings. There are a few
steps required, but once you have it set up it works great.
1) Create format with tables and parameters.
2) Create drawing template using format with default parameters
After you have the drawing template created with the default parameters all
you have to do is create a new drawing using the template. To modify the
parameters choose Edit-Value and click on the cell in the drawing that you
want to modify. This way is doesn't matter what the parameter order is.
Bye
"David Janes" <djanes@cox.net.invorrid> wrote in message
news:N3Jpd.128441$cJ3.113806@fed1read06...
: "Bjorn Ljungdahl" <bjorn.ljungdahl@telia.nospam.com> wrote
: Hi,
:
: I wonder if there is a way to set the order ni which parameters
: are 'asked' when I create a drawing.
Not that I'm aware of. If these owere repeat region parameters, it would
be
aidifferent story, of course. My general reaction is to wonder why they
are being
asked. I've seen it before, but only in the context that the parameters
didn't
exist in tghe model or existed in the model but contained no values.
: I have several fields that I want the program to fill in the
: drawing, but the order ProE asks me for the information
: seem random.
: For example I want it to ask me for company name, part
: name, designer etc in that order, but it asks me for part
: name, designer, company name, and I can't get it to change
: the order.
A valuable source of information on this is the Help section on
Pro/DETAILING.
Check out System parameters: in the first place, what you are calling part
name is
already available as MODEL_NAME, picked up by the system, no 'asking', no
user
input required. Further, something consistently used, like company name,
ought to
be placed, with the proper value, in the start part. The aim of much of
this,
including standard notes and most of the system parameters, is to 1)
eliminate the
tedium and time required to manually fill in parameter values; and 2) to
eliminate
as much user error as possible.
: I even tried to create the parameters in a special order when
: I create .frm file, but it doesn't seem to help.
:
: Any suggestions?
:
Do as much of the parameter filling in the model/assembly. Create all the
needed
parameters in the start parts. Get people used to going to
'Tools>Parameters' and
filling in parameter values. If parts appear in assemblies, you can also
set up
the Model tree to show the parameters which need to be filled in and use
the tree
for data input, since it lists all the parts. An alternative is to create
the
prompts with Pro/PROGRAM (in the Input section where you have complete
control of
things like the order in which users are prompted). If you do this in the
start
part and have it ask when the part is opened and first named, this carries
through
the assemblies and drawings.
David Janes
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Thank you for the suggestions. I guess I have to take the time
to set up everything correctly, but it's better in the long run.
/Bjorn |
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