How to get datum evaluate into note? /2001
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kenny
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 4:17 pm    Post subject: How to get datum evaluate into note? /2001 Reply with quote

Hi,

I have an assembly with a series of levers which are controlled by a
single angle and I need to see the result clearly.
Insert/Datum/Evaluate
feature name: plunger
enter measurement name: travel
and pick two surfaces to measure distance apart.
To get to this info I look into info/feature.

How to I get this 'parameter' into a 3D note to see the result
immediately after changing the driving angle?

Thanks

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Jeff Howard
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 5:08 pm    Post subject: Re: How to get datum evaluate into note? /2001 Reply with quote

Quote:
Insert/Datum/Evaluate
feature name: plunger
enter measurement name: travel
and pick two surfaces to measure distance apart.
To get to this info I look into info/feature.

How to I get this 'parameter' into a 3D note to see the result
immediately after changing the driving angle?

Reference the measurment as:
travel:fid_plunger

(Not sure if you can do this directly in the note or if you need to create
a parameter that reads the value.... etc.)
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kenny
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 6:15 pm    Post subject: Re: How to get datum evaluate into note? /2001 Reply with quote

In article <jty6d.13129$gG4.10459@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
jeff4136@mindspring.com says...
Quote:
Reference the measurment as:
travel:fid_plunger
this does not appear to be a parameter otherwise it would appear in a

note by referencing it as &travel:fid_plunger

Quote:
(Not sure if you can do this directly in the note or if you need to create
a parameter that reads the value.... etc.)

not sure about this, I cannot create a real number feature parameter as
this format will not be accepted as a value

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Jeff Howard
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 6:34 pm    Post subject: Re: How to get datum evaluate into note? /2001 Reply with quote

Quote:
not sure about this, I cannot create a real number feature parameter as
this format will not be accepted as a value

Not sure I'm getting it, but .....

Create a relation such as; distance = travel:fid_plunger
(automatically creates the parameter "distance")
Create a note that says "offset = &distance" and place it.
The note should show: offset = 7.500 (or whatever the value is).
(Just tried this in WF, so I've learned something <g>)
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Stu
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 6:34 pm    Post subject: Re: How to get datum evaluate into note? /2001 Reply with quote

On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:15:53 +0100, kenny <kenny@UNSPAM.com> wrote:

Quote:
In article <jty6d.13129$gG4.10459@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
jeff4136@mindspring.com says...
Reference the measurment as:
travel:fid_plunger
this does not appear to be a parameter otherwise it would appear in a
note by referencing it as &travel:fid_plunger

(Not sure if you can do this directly in the note or if you need to create
a parameter that reads the value.... etc.)

not sure about this, I cannot create a real number feature parameter as
this format will not be accepted as a value


create the evaluate as described, then enter a relation
such as measurement= travel:fid_plunger
then make your note read &measurement.
I've just tried it and it works, although in WF2 the note doesnt
update on a regen. You have to re-define it and voila! it changes.....
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Jeff Howard
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 6:47 pm    Post subject: Re: How to get datum evaluate into note? /2001 Reply with quote

Quote:
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I've just tried it and it works, although in WF2 the note doesnt
update on a regen. You have to re-define it and voila! it changes.....


Ok, just noticed the same thing (WF2, also) and you're seeing it indicates
a bug, I think. Don't redefine it, just RMB on the part and Regenerate
again. You get the note that nothing's changed and the note still reads
old value. Repaint the screen (I just bump the spaceball) and the note
updates.

(I tried it with a part level note and a feature level note associated with
the datum evaluate, which is the last feature in the part I was testing
with.)
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Jeff Howard
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 6:54 pm    Post subject: Re: How to get datum evaluate into note? /2001 Reply with quote

Quote:
You get the note that nothing's changed ...

In the message window, that is.
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kenny
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 7:46 pm    Post subject: Re: How to get datum evaluate into note? /2001 Reply with quote

In article <CJz6d.13181$gG4.9163@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
jeff4136@mindspring.com says...
Quote:
Create a relation such as; distance = travel:fid_plunger
(automatically creates the parameter "distance")
Create a note that says "offset = &distance" and place it.
The note should show: offset = 7.500 (or whatever the value is).
(Just tried this in WF, so I've learned something <g>)

And it also works in a note in the drawing.
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kenny
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 7:46 pm    Post subject: Re: How to get datum evaluate into note? /2001 Reply with quote

In article <7phll09j58j3vvn3mlhv2b8oajb6954crk@4ax.com>, Stu@kapco-
tool.com says...
Quote:
create the evaluate as described, then enter a relation
such as measurement= travel:fid_plunger
then make your note read &measurement.
I've just tried it and it works, although in WF2 the note doesnt
update on a regen. You have to re-define it and voila! it changes.....


There is always something in proe that will irritate, I've found that

suppress and resume the eval feature is the quickest way to refresh the
note, but this bug does spoil the action.
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David Janes
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 5:09 am    Post subject: Re: How to get datum evaluate into note? /2001 Reply with quote

: "kenny" <kenny@UNSPAM.com> wrote
: Hi,
:
: I have an assembly with a series of levers which are controlled by a
: single angle and I need to see the result clearly.
: Insert/Datum/Evaluate
: feature name: plunger
: enter measurement name: travel
: and pick two surfaces to measure distance apart.
: To get to this info I look into info/feature.
:
: How to I get this 'parameter' into a 3D note to see the result
: immediately after changing the driving angle?
:
Kenny, you were right to put 'parameter' in quotes. Those methods can pick up
values when they are created but you discovered their limitation: they don't
update well.

You were close though! Instead of the evaluate function, do 'Insert>Model
Datum>Analysis'. It, too, offers the Measure function to get the refverences that
you are using for distance. But then, its decided advantage is that, in the
process, it has you create a parameter, a real one, to hold and represent that
measured value. It also sets its own update condition which makes it possble to
make the parameter value ever current and the parameter which it lets you create
can be used quite simply in a note with the usual ampersand sign. When your model
updates, the parameter updates and the note updates with it.

David Janes
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Jeff Howard
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:17 am    Post subject: Re: How to get datum evaluate into note? /2001 Reply with quote

Quote:
..... do 'Insert>Model > Datum>Analysis'. It, too,
offers the Measure function to get the .....

Behavioral Modeling eXtension required?
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David Janes
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:35 am    Post subject: Re: How to get datum evaluate into note? /2001 Reply with quote

"Jeff Howard" <jeff4136@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:W0K6d.2469$Yr.349@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
:> ..... do 'Insert>Model > Datum>Analysis'. It, too,
: > offers the Measure function to get the .....
:
: Behavioral Modeling eXtension required?
:
Maybe, good question, can't keep those little bundles straight, but this generally
applies to Evaluate stuff too, doesn't it? If you have Evaluate, shouldn't you
have Analysis?

David Janes
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Jeff Howard
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 8:44 am    Post subject: Re: How to get datum evaluate into note? /2001 Reply with quote

Quote:
: Behavioral Modeling eXtension required?
:
Maybe, good question, can't keep those little bundles straight, but this
generally
applies to Evaluate stuff too, doesn't it? If you have Evaluate,
shouldn't you
have Analysis?

Dunno for sure, but with WF and WF2 I've been able to use Evaluate
features, but Analysis features give me the "try before you buy" message.
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