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dida128
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 6:27 pm    Post subject: Memory error Reply with quote

Well, on several winxp machines with 2 gig of RAM we have problem with
Pro/ENGINEER memory error while opening master rep of an assembly.
Trying to discover what is the problem.
In task manager, memory usage shows about 1.9 GB and Pro/E crashes.
I think that the problem is with winxp, because somewhere on net someone
wrote that 32-bit OS can't address more than 2 GB for one process.
Is it true, and if it isn't please help.

THNX
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John Wade
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:45 am    Post subject: Re: Memory error Reply with quote

There's a 3GB switch for XP but it isn't much good as the Pro kernel is
limited to about 1.7GB. (There's a patch which stretches this to about 1.9
which we use - I assume you're using 200I^2 - PTC should be able to point
you at this. )

I'd suggest carving your master rep up into functional subassemblies, and
shrinkwrapping them. (You'll probably need to use absolute accuracy to get
this to work, and as ever, I recommend a value of 0.02, but that depends
very much upon the smalles features you create..) - You can then create a
simplified rep of your product with the shrink wraps in place, and just swap
'em out for the real functional subassemblies you need as real background
for work you're doing.

Hopefully PTC will see the light, and 'do' a 64 bit version of 200I^2 as
well as Wildfire (I know, not yet) which will make a lot of memory problems
disappear with 64 bit machines. This is a couple of years away yet though.


"dida128" <dida128@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Well, on several winxp machines with 2 gig of RAM we have problem with
Pro/ENGINEER memory error while opening master rep of an assembly.
Trying to discover what is the problem.
In task manager, memory usage shows about 1.9 GB and Pro/E crashes.
I think that the problem is with winxp, because somewhere on net someone
wrote that 32-bit OS can't address more than 2 GB for one process.
Is it true, and if it isn't please help.

THNX
dida128@hotmail.com



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Ben Loosli
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:21 am    Post subject: Re: Memory error Reply with quote

On Win2K, we see Pro/E disappear at about 1.4GB for the xtop process with
Wildfire.

I won't hold my breath for a WinXP64 for anything prior to Wildfire and
maybe not even WF1.

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"John Wade" <Abuse@whitehouse.gov> wrote in message
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Quote:
There's a 3GB switch for XP but it isn't much good as the Pro kernel is
limited to about 1.7GB. (There's a patch which stretches this to about 1.9
which we use - I assume you're using 200I^2 - PTC should be able to point
you at this. )

I'd suggest carving your master rep up into functional subassemblies, and
shrinkwrapping them. (You'll probably need to use absolute accuracy to get
this to work, and as ever, I recommend a value of 0.02, but that depends
very much upon the smalles features you create..) - You can then create a
simplified rep of your product with the shrink wraps in place, and just
swap
'em out for the real functional subassemblies you need as real background
for work you're doing.

Hopefully PTC will see the light, and 'do' a 64 bit version of 200I^2 as
well as Wildfire (I know, not yet) which will make a lot of memory
problems
disappear with 64 bit machines. This is a couple of years away yet though.


"dida128" <dida128@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:chkggg$o8h$1@ls219.htnet.hr...
Well, on several winxp machines with 2 gig of RAM we have problem with
Pro/ENGINEER memory error while opening master rep of an assembly.
Trying to discover what is the problem.
In task manager, memory usage shows about 1.9 GB and Pro/E crashes.
I think that the problem is with winxp, because somewhere on net someone
wrote that 32-bit OS can't address more than 2 GB for one process.
Is it true, and if it isn't please help.

THNX
dida128@hotmail.com



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hamei
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Memory error Reply with quote

John Wade wrote:

Quote:

Hopefully PTC will see the light, and 'do' a 64 bit version of 200I^2


Somehow I doubt that they'll re-release a 64-bit version of a five
year old product :-)
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sugarsmoking
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Memory error Reply with quote

there is a solution:

- increase swap file to at least 4000
- in boot.ini you need to increase memory handling for single process (find
directions on internet, use bootcfg utility, i think its "bootcfg /Raw
"/3GB" /A /ID 1)
- in i486_nt\obj\ folder enter line like this from shell: "imagecfg -l
xtop.exe" (its L and not 1 in the line).

this will allow xtop process up to 3 GB.

hope this helps

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hamei
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Memory error Reply with quote

sugarsmoking wrote:

Quote:
there is a solution:


yeah, buy a Fuel and get 8 gigs of memory support without
doing ANY of these crappy workarounds :-)
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 3:27 am    Post subject: Re: Memory error Reply with quote

John Wade wrote:
Quote:
Hopefully PTC will see the light, and 'do' a 64 bit version of 200I^2 as
well as Wildfire (I know, not yet)

Can't see them doing a 64-bit version of 2000i2 ;)

PTC has 64-bit versions on SUN, Silicon Graphics, IBM, and I think HP.

Quote:
This is a couple of years away yet though.

Don't they have a 64-bit Linux version for IA64 systems? Sometimes
getting the most basic facts from PTC is difficult.

I wonder what the big deal is with 64-bit support (why is it taking so
long?). For a properly written program on an SGI machine you just add
-64 to the compiler argument and voila!.

Regards,

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hamei
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Memory error Reply with quote

<<>> wrote:

Quote:
I wonder what the big deal is with 64-bit support (why is it taking so
long?). For a properly written program on an SGI machine you just add
-64 to the compiler argument and voila!.


I have read that the SGI version is *only* available in a
64-bit format. I guess if you're running on a Tezro or a
Fuel the slight slowdown of 64-bit isn't noticeable .....
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David Janes
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 4:35 am    Post subject: Re: Memory error Reply with quote

"hamei" <hamei@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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: sugarsmoking wrote:
:
: > there is a solution:
: >
:
: yeah, buy a Fuel

Quel, what's a Fuel!?! And if you're selling them, why would I plunk down the cash
to get one? Oh, yeah, and how much moolaah makes me the proud owner of a Foolaah.

David Janes
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hamei
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 7:32 am    Post subject: Re: Memory error Reply with quote

David Janes wrote:
Quote:

"hamei" <hamei@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:PM0003E3989BB36DBE@houzi.wanlong...
: sugarsmoking wrote:
:
: > there is a solution:
:
:
: yeah, buy a Fuel

Quel, what's a Fuel!?!

http://sgi.com/products/workstations/fuel/

Quote:
And if you're selling them,

no, why should I be ? You post a lot about Pro/E - are you
selling it ?


Quote:
why would I plunk
down the cash
to get one?

Notice the title of the thread ? If you are having problems with
memory management would be one reason. Irix Wildfire is 64-bit.
That means a huge memory space for large assemblies. That's what
the question was. A Fuel would be one answer. A Tezro is another :

http://sgi.com/products/workstations/tezro/


Quote:
Oh, yeah, and how much moolaah makes me the proud owner of
a Foolaah.


I think list on a Fuel is about ten grand. There's some dual
cpu Tezros on the bargain page for seventeen. Discounts apply
to these things, just like PTC - join the developer's program,
get 30% off, that kind of thing.
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