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Sporkman
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 11:17 am Post subject:
Do you Yahoo? (Big Brother is watching) |
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http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us/beacons/details.html
I don't like to join Yahoo groups for reasons of privacy and some people
consider me paranoid because of that and because I don't like to lower
my privacy shields (don't like to enable cookies globally for just any
old Web domain, etc.) and because I warn others against doing so. But
the above is pretty good evidence that my caution is warranted. If you
belong to a Yahoo group, have a Yahoo email address, or use Yahoo for
any of your Web browsing (etc.) you must have enabled cookies for the
Yahoo domain. That means you are having your browsing habits recorded
(at least in part, quite possibly in large part) without your knowledge
by Yahoo. I would say "without your knowledge" unless you're in the
habit of reading the fine print. This page above enables you to "opt
out", which I would urge you to do . . . but be careful, because on the
following "Success" page the most prominent link "button" reverses the
"opt out" choice and opts you back in. Also if you use more than one
browser and/or computer, you'll have to "opt out" for each one.
Note, that these "Web Beacons", as they call them, are also being sent
to anyone to whom Yahoo "or its agents" (probably including anyone with
a Yahoo email address) send email which contain HTML formatting . . . a
really dirty trick, if you ask me. They may claim "no personally
identifiable" information all they want -- trusting them is not the
wisest of choices in my book.
Mark 'Sporky' Stapleton
Watermark Design, LLC
www.h2omarkdesign.com
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That70sTick
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 7:45 pm Post subject:
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Bring it on, Big Brother. I feel sorry for anyone whose job it is to
monitor my internet doings. BO-RING! I am SUCH a GEEK! |
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 8:02 pm Post subject:
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That70sTick wrote:
| Quote: | Bring it on, Big Brother. I feel sorry for anyone whose job it is to
monitor my internet doings. BO-RING! I am SUCH a GEEK!
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I am neither geek nor nerd, I am more of a dork.
My anarchist friends scream about the grocery store rewards cards
tracking their spending. Unless you have reason to worry, I just really
don't care if it is known that I like frozen burritos. Or that I browse
to Mother Jones on occasion =-0
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Cliff
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 10:28 pm Post subject:
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In article <1103813153.036769.47640@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
"That70sTick" <rol4@liquidschwarz.com> writes:
| Quote: | Bring it on, Big Brother. I feel sorry for anyone whose job it is to
monitor my internet doings. BO-RING! I am SUCH a GEEK!
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You never heard of Carnivore and relatives?
I doubt that many know of the latest incarnations from Winger Central.
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Cliff |
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Cliff
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 10:28 pm Post subject:
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In article <1103814171.762919.292450@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
the_aborigine@yahoo.com writes:
| Quote: | Unless you have reason to worry,
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You don't want to read stuff like this ......... or let them know that
it got to your computer, even .... OOPS !!!
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,5092689,00.html
Subject: Subject: FBI yields on Carnivore code -- let your friends know!
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2611192,00.html?chkpt=zdnnstop
Dear Mr. Carnivore:
Please don't read my e-mail.
I have no interest in bad words like Saren, Anthrax, Bubonic, Assassinate,
President, Hillary, Vince Foster, Whitewater, Conspiracy, Area 51, Roswell,
Federal, Communist, New World Order, UN, Black Helicopters, Liberal,
Conservative, Communist, Nazi, 2nd Amendment, AK-47, M-16, Nuclear,
Backpack, Plutonium, Russia, Pakistan, North Korea, Freedom Fighters,
Underground, Terrorist, Palestine, Highjack, Aircraft, Civil War, Jihad,
Revolution, Waco, David Koresh, Ruby Ridge, Randy Weaver, Janet Reno,
Militia, Minutemen, Posse Comitas, Oklahoma City, Arson, Bomb, Detonator,
TNT, Dynamite, Fertilizer, Truck, Capitol, National Guard, US Army, USMC,
USAF, FBI, CIA, NSA, DEA, Customs, Smuggle, Heroin, Cocaine, Marijuana,
Cartel, Drugs, Launder, Cash, Abortionist, Right to Life, Sniper, Kill
Barney, No More Purple Dinosaurs, Civil Rights, 1st Amendment, Thomas
Jefferson, Freedom of Speech, Warrant, Illegal Search and Seizure, Fourth
Amendment . . .
Uh, who's knocking at my door? CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP . . . BURP
HTH
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Cliff (Thanks to BD <G>.) |
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Sporkman
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Fri Dec 24, 2004 12:36 am Post subject:
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The article in question is gone from the pages you list. Searches
reveal the full text seems to have been removed from ZDNet. IT'S A
CONSPIRACY!!! Yes, folks, good ol' Uncle Sam is scheming to deprive you
of your Constitutional rights, and putting pressure on those who blow
the whistle.
Seriously though, I don't have nearly the problem of my emails being
scanned by the FBI for things like terrorist activity as I do with Yahoo
tracking my browsing habits (innocent as my browsing habits are -- heh,
heh).
But any rate, here's the article from the folks who filed the lawsuit:
http://www.epic.org/alert/EPIC_Alert_7.15.html
'Sporky'
I may be paranoid, but that doesn't mean they're not out to get me.
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Cliff wrote:
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Cliff
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Fri Dec 24, 2004 4:14 am Post subject:
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In article <41CB1E25.250E26F8@bigfootDOT.com>, Sporkman
<sporkedUNDERLINEagainMUNGE@bigfootDOT.com> writes:
"August 3, 2000"
Been dead quiet since than?
Off to Cuba are they?
--
Cliff |
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Devon T. Sowell
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Fri Dec 24, 2004 4:37 am Post subject:
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Hello Mark-
What anti-virus software do you use?
I'm currently using three:
Norton Anti-Virus
Spybot
AdAware
The last two seem to work well. I'm surprised how many get by Norton
Anti-Virus.
Also, I always review my e-mails on my ISP servers before downloading to my
computers.
Merry Christmas!
Best Regards,
Devon T. Sowell
www.3-ddesignsolutions.com
"Sporkman" <sporkedUNDERLINEagainMUNGE@bigfootDOT.com> wrote in message
news:41CB1E25.250E26F8@bigfootDOT.com...
| Quote: | The article in question is gone from the pages you list. Searches
reveal the full text seems to have been removed from ZDNet. IT'S A
CONSPIRACY!!! Yes, folks, good ol' Uncle Sam is scheming to deprive you
of your Constitutional rights, and putting pressure on those who blow
the whistle.
Seriously though, I don't have nearly the problem of my emails being
scanned by the FBI for things like terrorist activity as I do with Yahoo
tracking my browsing habits (innocent as my browsing habits are -- heh,
heh).
But any rate, here's the article from the folks who filed the lawsuit:
http://www.epic.org/alert/EPIC_Alert_7.15.html
'Sporky'
I may be paranoid, but that doesn't mean they're not out to get me.
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Cliff wrote:
In article <1103814171.762919.292450@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
the_aborigine@yahoo.com writes:
Unless you have reason to worry,
You don't want to read stuff like this ......... or let them know that
it got to your computer, even .... OOPS !!!
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,5092689,00.html
Subject: Subject: FBI yields on Carnivore code -- let your friends know!
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2611192,00.html?chkpt=zdnnstop
Dear Mr. Carnivore:
Please don't read my e-mail.
...(clip).... |
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bill a
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Fri Dec 24, 2004 4:48 am Post subject:
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I don't think you should really be too surprised that spyware is getting
past NAV, because it doesn't deal with spyware at all,
and conversely, Spybot and Adaware have no capabilities regarding virus
issues.
"Devon T. Sowell" <dtsowell@3-ddesignsolutions.com> wrote in message
news:jdudnZmulL0ky1bcRVn-3w@adelphia.com...
| Quote: | Hello Mark-
What anti-virus software do you use?
I'm currently using three:
Norton Anti-Virus
Spybot
AdAware
The last two seem to work well. I'm surprised how many get by Norton
Anti-Virus.
Merry Christmas!
Best Regards,
Devon T. Sowell
www.3-ddesignsolutions.com |
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Cliff
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Fri Dec 24, 2004 4:58 am Post subject:
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On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:48:12 GMT, "bill a"
<custom4173@sbcglobalDOTnet.invalid> wrote:
| Quote: | I don't think you should really be too surprised that spyware is getting
past NAV, because it doesn't deal with spyware at all,
and conversely, Spybot and Adaware have no capabilities regarding virus
issues.
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Should mere cookies even be considered "spyware"?
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Cliff |
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Sporkman
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Fri Dec 24, 2004 8:36 am Post subject:
Re: Do you Yahoo? (Big Brother is watching) |
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"Devon T. Sowell" wrote:
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Hello Mark-
What anti-virus software do you use?
I'm currently using three:
Norton Anti-Virus
Spybot
AdAware
The last two seem to work well. I'm surprised how many get by Norton
Anti-Virus.
Also, I always review my e-mails on my ISP servers before downloading to my
computers.
Merry Christmas!
Best Regards,
Devon T. Sowell
www.3-ddesignsolutions.com
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I use the same three -- not that any of them would be of any use against
these "Web Beacons". If you read the link carefully, you'll realize
that what is happening is that Yahoo is making extended use of cookies,
in a way that other companies (like DoubleClick) have been DENYING for
some time that they do . . . not that anyone has believed them. Now
Yahoo is admitting to it up front. They're recording their users'
browsing. They say "No personally identifiable information about you is
shared with partners from this research", but they only say that for
browsing "outside the Yahoo network". Go ahead and say I'm paranoid,
but if you don't think that means that they DO include personally
identifiable information for IN network browsing then I'd say you need
to think again.
But a very Merry Christmas to all, regardless of privacy issues.
'Sporky' |
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SWalker@carrollhealthcare
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Wed Dec 29, 2004 10:59 am Post subject:
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Manage your cookies.
http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/network/cookie.htm
Cookie Wall removes unwanted cookies. (Freeware)
So, now surf everywhere and anywhere with your cookies enabled (Explorer
settings)
Cookie Wall removes them. Cookie mandatory websites are satisfied and your
system remains clean.
Let Yahoo put the cookie on your system and the next time you surf, there
is nothing for Yahoo to retrieve and hence no tracking can be made.
However, just about nothing can prevent Yahoo or anyone from tracking your
IP address (except if you have rotating IP address - as in a dial up
connection)
SW
Sporkman <sporkedUNDERLINEagainMUNGE@bigfootDOT.com> wrote in
news:41CA62F6.885033BE@bigfootDOT.com:
| Quote: | http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us/beacons/details.html
I don't like to join Yahoo groups for reasons of privacy and some people
consider me paranoid because of that and because I don't like to lower
my privacy shields (don't like to enable cookies globally for just any
old Web domain, etc.) and because I warn others against doing so. But
the above is pretty good evidence that my caution is warranted. If you
belong to a Yahoo group, have a Yahoo email address, or use Yahoo for
any of your Web browsing (etc.) you must have enabled cookies for the
Yahoo domain. That means you are having your browsing habits recorded
(at least in part, quite possibly in large part) without your knowledge
by Yahoo. I would say "without your knowledge" unless you're in the
habit of reading the fine print. This page above enables you to "opt
out", which I would urge you to do . . . but be careful, because on the
following "Success" page the most prominent link "button" reverses the
"opt out" choice and opts you back in. Also if you use more than one
browser and/or computer, you'll have to "opt out" for each one.
Note, that these "Web Beacons", as they call them, are also being sent
to anyone to whom Yahoo "or its agents" (probably including anyone with
a Yahoo email address) send email which contain HTML formatting . . . a
really dirty trick, if you ask me. They may claim "no personally
identifiable" information all they want -- trusting them is not the
wisest of choices in my book.
Mark 'Sporky' Stapleton
Watermark Design, LLC
www.h2omarkdesign.com |
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