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Randall Culp
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Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 11:51 am    Post subject: Re: To Group them or Block them? Reply with quote

If you're going to need more than one of them, BLOCK is the much better
option. GROUP would be used for a single "group" of elements you wish
associated to respond together. We use them quite often for things like
caged ladders, where we desire the rails, rungs and cage components to
function together.

"Tracy W. Lincoln" <discussion.support@autodesk.com> wrote in message
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Try this... make one hole, the center lines/marks you want, make it a
group.... now copy that whole thing around 10 times (tell me: what are the
names for the other groups?) Now copy/paste that into another brand new
drawing... YIKES!!!

Blocks are better for this application.
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"W. Kirk Crawford" <wkc@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I hadn't realized that grouping inflates the file.

Thanks.

W. Kirk Crawford
Rochester Hills, Michigan





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Tracy W. Lincoln
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Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 10:36 pm    Post subject: Re: To Group them or Block them? Reply with quote

Randall,

Excellent point.

Yes, grouping similar objects is exactly what they were intended for or for
objects that might be in multiple groups... but then (like any
organizational concept) if they are not managed correctly, groups can get
out of hand when users (who are unaware) start copying, editing, etc...

I guess it always boils down to a few things, good training, good standards
and good communication within the work group. Personally I have always
found simple groupings great but anything more becomes too cumbersome.

If the OP was to say, use a block for the holes and then group all the
tapped holes together or group all the holes by size together or group all
the holes that were for a particular function (mounting of a component or
assembly) together than that would be the best of both features.

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Tracy W. Lincoln - TLConsulting
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Consulting, Design & Training Specialist
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"Randall Culp" wrote:
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If you're going to need more than one of them, BLOCK is the much better
option. GROUP would be used for a single "group" of elements you wish
associated to respond together. We use them quite often for things like
caged ladders, where we desire the rails, rungs and cage components to
function together.
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teiarch
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Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 10:54 pm    Post subject: Re: To Group them or Block them? Reply with quote

Randall: Operative word is "may"....no way to tell what future viewers' conclusions might be.

Philosophy of using ALL tools includes, among other things, using 3dfaces and/or plines with thickness instead of solids when appropriate.....

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Randall Culp
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Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 11:07 pm    Post subject: Re: To Group them or Block them? Reply with quote

TRACE vs. PLINE. Yes, using 3DFACEs when appropriate would be appropriate.
However, since the advent of 3DSOLIDs, their appropriate use has dwindled to
rare if at all.


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Randall: Operative word is "may"....no way to tell what future viewers'
conclusions might be.

Philosophy of using ALL tools includes, among other things, using 3dfaces
and/or plines with thickness instead of solids when appropriate.....
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