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Matt
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Wed Dec 22, 2004 7:52 pm Post subject:
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When possible we don't change the arch. drawings at all, saves time. Maybe
I should capitalize the when possible part............It only works out
about 10% of the time.
Matt
"olivers1" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I agree when the drawings come in with everything on unique layers and the
colors aren't forced, freezing unneeded layers and adjusting colors works |
great. But we still get many drawings from process people and building
people that are hard to use. Believe it or not we will receive drawings
that have 10-15 drawings in the model tab. Each one will have a border with
current rev info.
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One question I still have. So are people changing their xref colors in
the drawing used as an xref directly, or are they changing them in the |
drawing they pull the xref into?
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tstright
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Wed Dec 22, 2004 8:29 pm Post subject:
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| When that happens we send them back. We don't budget time to fix mistakes made by others. |
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Matt
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Wed Dec 22, 2004 8:44 pm Post subject:
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That is a luxury not shared by all.
Matt
"tstright" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote in message
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| Quote: | When that happens we send them back. We don't budget time to fix mistakes
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Randall Culp
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 3:01 am Post subject:
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Sounds like it's time to review the contract.
"Matt" <jeg2dsign@(removethis)earthlink.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | That is a luxury not shared by all.
Matt
"tstright" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote in message
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When that happens we send them back. We don't budget time to fix mistakes
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Joshua Tapp
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 7:59 am Post subject:
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Geez, people. Lighten up. Maybe Matt or olivers1 has any say in the
contract. Who knows, but in time constraints, sending a drawing back
sometimes can't happen for the drawings to get out by the deadline. It'd be
nice to force them to do so, but it's hard for one company to tell another
what their standards should be....
I think it would be especially hard for a consultant to tell the architect
to have better standards. Usually, the architect can have some say in his
consultants drawings, for project consistency, but that's about it.
I'm speaking as one in an architectural firm. My firm doesn't even use
AutoCAD, and there's some translation nightmares that happen when we send
our consultants files. We don't always remember to take care of the
nightmares beforehand, and that's when the consultant will have to handle
it.
But they don't always use our latest stuff anyways, so it's a wash.<BG>
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Joshua Tapp
TAPP Design
| Quote: | Sounds like it's time to review the contract.
"Matt" <jeg2dsign@(removethis)earthlink.net> wrote in message
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That is a luxury not shared by all.
Matt
"tstright" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote in message
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Randall Culp
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 11:15 am Post subject:
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Actually it's quite easy at contract if the data is covered in the RFQ.
| Quote: | It'd be nice to force them to do so, but it's hard for one company to tell
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Matt
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Mon Dec 27, 2004 8:16 pm Post subject:
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That would be nice but unfortunately it won't happen. I don't think the
industry in this area could be forced into drawing "correctly" even if
drawing specs were covered in the contract - there's just too much work
flying around. Repeat offenders do however get a little extra tucked into
their prices for the hassle. If it were up to me (and it's not) we would be
more aggressive about it or more selective of our clients but my boss (like
most) just don't see the waste of time or don't care.
Matt
"Randall Culp" <rculp@gt.rr.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Actually it's quite easy at contract if the data is covered in the RFQ.
It'd be nice to force them to do so, but it's hard for one company to
tell
another what their standards should be....
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Randall Culp
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Mon Dec 27, 2004 9:48 pm Post subject:
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If he doesn't see the waste, show it to him, track the time wasted on
garbage repair then multiply it by the billing rate. Now if you guys are
paid by the hour by the client it's not a waste, but increased profit, which
may be why he chooses not to see it. If he doesn't care, he's part of the
problem.
"Matt" <jeg2dsign@(removethis)earthlink.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | That would be nice but unfortunately it won't happen. I don't think the
industry in this area could be forced into drawing "correctly" even if
drawing specs were covered in the contract - there's just too much work
flying around. Repeat offenders do however get a little extra tucked
into
their prices for the hassle. If it were up to me (and it's not) we would
be
more aggressive about it or more selective of our clients but my boss
(like
most) just don't see the waste of time or don't care.
Matt
"Randall Culp" <rculp@gt.rr.com> wrote in message
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Actually it's quite easy at contract if the data is covered in the RFQ.
It'd be nice to force them to do so, but it's hard for one company to
tell
another what their standards should be....
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Tom Smith
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Tue Dec 28, 2004 10:20 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | One question I still have. So are people changing their xref colors in
the drawing used as an xref directly, or are they changing them in the |
drawing they pull the xref into?
My preference is to never alter a drawing from an outside source in any way.
(If that's possible, given the quality issues we've discussed.) So I
wouldn't go into the xref and change any colors. I would change the
"visibility" of the xref (colors & freeze/thaw status) using the layer
manager in MY drawing, the one in which the xref is attached. Set
VISRETAIN=1 to keep these settings. If you need to re-create the settings in
another of your drawings, you can export/import the layer states. |
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