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Dougie
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 3:43 pm    Post subject: reference Reply with quote

you know how you can reference numbers (or anything in a cell) in excel.

can you referernce numbers or strings in autocad?

eg. a floor level in model space is 15.00 can that be referenced all
throughout the drawing. (internally not externally like an xref).

so if the 15.00 level changed then you only have to change it in one spot?

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Tracy W. Lincoln
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 3:58 pm    Post subject: Re: reference Reply with quote

If you have AutoCAD 2005 look into "Fields"
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"Dougie" <dug@d4design.com.au> wrote in message news:41988861_2@newsprd01...
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you know how you can reference numbers (or anything in a cell) in excel.

can you referernce numbers or strings in autocad?

eg. a floor level in model space is 15.00 can that be referenced all
throughout the drawing. (internally not externally like an xref).

so if the 15.00 level changed then you only have to change it in one spot?
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teiarch
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 3:19 am    Post subject: Re: reference Reply with quote

Floor level 15.00?? Is that a real world number or project-specific?

Q: When developing wall and building sections, do you actually position a floor level at Y=15.00? If you don't, you should consider trying it; makes life a lot simpler to say nothing of the math.

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OLD-CADaver
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 6:35 pm    Post subject: Re: reference Reply with quote

<<do you actually position a floor level at Y=15.00? If you don't, you should consider trying it;>>

Try Z=15.00
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twlincoln
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 11:33 pm    Post subject: Re: reference Reply with quote

Please do not start another "which way is Z" argument (and make me agree with OLD-CADaver again) <g>
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OLD-CADaver
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 11:43 pm    Post subject: Re: reference Reply with quote

<giggle>
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teiarch
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:32 am    Post subject: Re: reference Reply with quote

Old-Cad: You are correct IF working in 3D. If doing wall sections in 2D, I set floor elevations to actual Y-axis value. That's all.

Which way is Y depends on the orientation of the UCS (sorry Tracy). and the viewpoint setting (relative speaking) with respect to the location of your eyeballs in reference to the mean centroid of your viewing device. It's different is you have a flat screen vs. CRT monitor. (sorry again, Tracy)
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Randall Culp
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 2:09 am    Post subject: Re: reference Reply with quote

I know, that was an apparently too subtle gig at the 2D crowd.

"teiarch" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote in message
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> Old-Cad: You are correct IF working in 3D.
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madcadd
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 2:31 am    Post subject: Re: reference Reply with quote

Hi Tracy,

I'm just back from vacation and so just read this. You mean to tell me that you teach this crap and STILL don't know the truth about the 'Z' thingy? I understand when you say you agree with Gacy.
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Reply From: twlincoln
Date: Nov/18/04 - 12:33 (CST)

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Please do not start another "which way is Z" argument (and make me agree with OLD-CADaver again) <g>
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Now let me see, if I am viewing a plan view, then 'Z' would be from the floor to the ceiling, right? And if I'm viewing an elevation, then the 'Z' would be from the back yard to the front porch, right? So 'Z' just demonstrated that it is multi faceted. In short, 'Z' is the (drum roll here) it's the third dimension. Cool, huh?

I only have one question left. If we discover a forth dimension out there somewhere, will we have to add a 27th character to our alpha beta?
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OLD-CADaver
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 4:34 am    Post subject: Re: reference Reply with quote

<<Now let me see, if I am viewing a plan view, then 'Z' would be from the floor to the ceiling, right? And if I'm viewing an elevation, then the 'Z' would be from the back yard to the front porch, right? >>

ummm... no, Z is still floor to ceiling, unless you change the UCS to something other than "World". Sounds like you haven't found the UCSVP variable yet.
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Tracy W. Lincoln
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 10:46 am    Post subject: Re: reference Reply with quote

You are doing what I asked either of you NOT do...

Personally, I do not care which axis you use, but please refrain from using
the word "crap" when describing what I and 99.99% (or greater) of the CADD
using industry (regardless of discipline) defines as it's coordinate system,
the fixed World Coordinate System. As I stated before, do not ontinue to
argue about it, you have your methods and opinions (and are rightly entiled
to them), but I do not have to agree and try and respect that, as well as
the other participants (or if you feel you must continue, please take your
arguement elsewhere (insults are not welcome).

It's a dead horse, and long overdue, please get off it.

Thank you.
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"madcadd" <nospam@address.withheld> wrote in message
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Quote:
Hi Tracy,

I'm just back from vacation and so just read this. You mean to tell me
that you teach this crap and STILL don't know the truth about the 'Z'
thingy? I understand when you say you agree with Gacy.
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Reply From: twlincoln
Date: Nov/18/04 - 12:33 (CST)

Re: reference
Please do not start another "which way is Z" argument (and make me agree
with OLD-CADaver again) <g
*************
Now let me see, if I am viewing a plan view, then 'Z' would be from the
floor to the ceiling, right? And if I'm viewing an elevation, then the 'Z'
would be from the back yard to the front porch, right? So 'Z' just
demonstrated that it is multi faceted. In short, 'Z' is the (drum roll
here) it's the third dimension. Cool, huh?

I only have one question left. If we discover a forth dimension out there
somewhere, will we have to add a 27th character to our alpha beta?
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Brian Spillane
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 5:28 am    Post subject: Re: reference Reply with quote

"Tracy W. Lincoln" <discussion.support@autodesk.com> wrote in message
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It's a dead horse, and long overdue, please get off it.


No matter how much you flog a dead horse

It doesn't run any faster.
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