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fujka
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Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:12 am Post subject:
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Is it ok to post about work offers here?
Well here goes. I have some simple work that needs to be completed.
I have a house designs in autocad format. The drawings are pretty good
I need wood truss and framing details. Thats it.
I have about 6 to do with maybe more. I will send you a sample drawing
as an example. If interested please contact me I am looking for someone
with a large amount of experience in this area and can turn over one set
of drawings a week.
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CW
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Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:16 am Post subject:
Re: WORK? |
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When somebody is looking for somebody to do some "simple work", that usually
means they won't pay much.
"fujka" <fujka@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Is it ok to post about work offers here?
Well here goes. I have some simple work that needs to be completed.
I have a house designs in autocad format. The drawings are pretty good
I need wood truss and framing details. Thats it.
I have about 6 to do with maybe more. I will send you a sample drawing
as an example. If interested please contact me I am looking for someone
with a large amount of experience in this area and can turn over one set
of drawings a week. |
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fujka
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Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:20 am Post subject:
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Are you interested? Are you qualified in this area? I think the pay
will be competitive you dont have to do anything until a price is agreed
upon
CW wrote:
| Quote: | When somebody is looking for somebody to do some "simple work", that usually
means they won't pay much.
"fujka" <fujka@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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Is it ok to post about work offers here?
Well here goes. I have some simple work that needs to be completed.
I have a house designs in autocad format. The drawings are pretty good
I need wood truss and framing details. Thats it.
I have about 6 to do with maybe more. I will send you a sample drawing
as an example. If interested please contact me I am looking for someone
with a large amount of experience in this area and can turn over one set
of drawings a week.
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Jerry G
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Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:10 pm Post subject:
Re: WORK? |
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Suggest you get a contact in the local truss industry (like me) and work
out a deal to do the truss layouts. That contact can avoid redraws since
if he/she does their job right, they will check that the trusses really
are buildable, and the truss company that ends up getting the contract
won't be calling you telling you that the trusses don't work as drawn,
fujka wrote:
| Quote: | Is it ok to post about work offers here?
Well here goes. I have some simple work that needs to be completed.
I have a house designs in autocad format. The drawings are pretty good
I need wood truss and framing details. Thats it.
I have about 6 to do with maybe more. I will send you a sample drawing
as an example. If interested please contact me I am looking for someone
with a large amount of experience in this area and can turn over one set
of drawings a week. |
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Michael Bulatovich
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Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:10 pm Post subject:
Re: WORK? |
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So now you've got to invoice him for half the contract, right?
"Jerry G" <ustrus@ustrus.com> wrote in message
news:2aadnSFuz9q9qubeRVn-ow@fdn.com...
| Quote: | Suggest you get a contact in the local truss industry (like me) and work
out a deal to do the truss layouts. That contact can avoid redraws since
if he/she does their job right, they will check that the trusses really
are buildable, and the truss company that ends up getting the contract
won't be calling you telling you that the trusses don't work as drawn,
fujka wrote:
Is it ok to post about work offers here?
Well here goes. I have some simple work that needs to be completed.
I have a house designs in autocad format. The drawings are pretty good
I need wood truss and framing details. Thats it.
I have about 6 to do with maybe more. I will send you a sample drawing as
an example. If interested please contact me I am looking for someone with
a large amount of experience in this area and can turn over one set of
drawings a week. |
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Jerry G
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Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:10 pm Post subject:
Re: WORK? |
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Not at all. Simply warning him that trusses are a specialty. I have seen
too many drawings by architects that simply could not be built as
drawn.... and that was after their structural engineer had signed off
their component. When I draw a building, I look at every truss to verify
that it is buildable based on the specifications, local code, and good
engineering practice. Many times I can simply tell at a glance that a
particular truss will work, or will not work based on my years in the
industry.
Different regions of the country are subject to different considerations
as far as load criteria, and the availability of different species of
lumber. Illinois has to design for snow, but Florida has to design for
hurricanes. My expertise is in Florida and I would be at a loss
designing for snow unless I had some time to adjust to designing for
that condition. That is why I specifically recommended that he find a
local truss designer who wants to moonlight. Some of the local truss
companies, if they knew you would be a customer, would even do the work
for free or would allow the cost of drawings to apply to the finally
cost of the trusses.
Michael Bulatovich wrote:
| Quote: | So now you've got to invoice him for half the contract, right?
"Jerry G" <ustrus@ustrus.com> wrote in message
news:2aadnSFuz9q9qubeRVn-ow@fdn.com...
Suggest you get a contact in the local truss industry (like me) and work
out a deal to do the truss layouts. That contact can avoid redraws since
if he/she does their job right, they will check that the trusses really
are buildable, and the truss company that ends up getting the contract
won't be calling you telling you that the trusses don't work as drawn,
fujka wrote:
Is it ok to post about work offers here?
Well here goes. I have some simple work that needs to be completed.
I have a house designs in autocad format. The drawings are pretty good
I need wood truss and framing details. Thats it.
I have about 6 to do with maybe more. I will send you a sample drawing as
an example. If interested please contact me I am looking for someone with
a large amount of experience in this area and can turn over one set of
drawings a week.
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Paul Turvill
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Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:10 pm Post subject:
Re: WORK? |
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Around these parts, truss suppliers do the design as part of the package.
The building designer/architect needs only to specify the bearing walls.
___
"Jerry G" <ustrus@ustrus.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Some of the local truss companies, if they knew you would be a customer,
would even do the work for free or would allow the cost of drawings to
apply to the finally cost of the trusses. |
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Michael Bulatovich
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Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:10 pm Post subject:
Re: WORK? |
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See Paul's post- the same applies to these parts.
That was the gist of my not-so-funny joke. Telling him that trusses will be
done for him gratis has got to be worth something since he was about to pay
someone to do it for him.
--
MichaelB
www.michaelbulatovich.ca
"Jerry G" <ustrus@ustrus.com> wrote in message
news:C_mdnXqGHcEE8ebeRVn-oA@fdn.com...
| Quote: | Not at all. Simply warning him that trusses are a specialty. I have seen
too many drawings by architects that simply could not be built as
drawn.... and that was after their structural engineer had signed off
their component. When I draw a building, I look at every truss to verify
that it is buildable based on the specifications, local code, and good
engineering practice. Many times I can simply tell at a glance that a
particular truss will work, or will not work based on my years in the
industry.
Different regions of the country are subject to different considerations
as far as load criteria, and the availability of different species of
lumber. Illinois has to design for snow, but Florida has to design for
hurricanes. My expertise is in Florida and I would be at a loss designing
for snow unless I had some time to adjust to designing for that condition.
That is why I specifically recommended that he find a local truss designer
who wants to moonlight. Some of the local truss companies, if they knew
you would be a customer, would even do the work for free or would allow
the cost of drawings to apply to the finally cost of the trusses.
Michael Bulatovich wrote:
So now you've got to invoice him for half the contract, right?
"Jerry G" <ustrus@ustrus.com> wrote in message
news:2aadnSFuz9q9qubeRVn-ow@fdn.com...
Suggest you get a contact in the local truss industry (like me) and work
out a deal to do the truss layouts. That contact can avoid redraws since
if he/she does their job right, they will check that the trusses really
are buildable, and the truss company that ends up getting the contract
won't be calling you telling you that the trusses don't work as drawn,
fujka wrote:
Is it ok to post about work offers here?
Well here goes. I have some simple work that needs to be completed.
I have a house designs in autocad format. The drawings are pretty good
I need wood truss and framing details. Thats it.
I have about 6 to do with maybe more. I will send you a sample drawing
as an example. If interested please contact me I am looking for someone
with a large amount of experience in this area and can turn over one set
of drawings a week.
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Michael Bulatovich
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:10 am Post subject:
Re: WORK? |
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He'd have to do that regardless of who drew it, no?
"Steve" <elbazarc@videotron.ca> wrote in message
news:X4Oef.33447$k96.991706@weber.videotron.net...
| Quote: | And he has to sign off those shop drawings that it follows the
archiectural
design. We see a lot of shop drwgs with omissions and errors. Mostly
because
they lack the time to infer missing details, and/or don't understand the
design.
"Michael Bulatovich" <Please@dont.try> wrote in message
news:EwMef.1900$KP5.265232@news20.bellglobal.com...
See Paul's post- the same applies to these parts.
That was the gist of my not-so-funny joke. Telling him that trusses will
be
done for him gratis has got to be worth something since he was about to
pay
someone to do it for him.
--
MichaelB
www.michaelbulatovich.ca
"Jerry G" <ustrus@ustrus.com> wrote in message
news:C_mdnXqGHcEE8ebeRVn-oA@fdn.com...
Not at all. Simply warning him that trusses are a specialty. I have
seen
too many drawings by architects that simply could not be built as
drawn.... and that was after their structural engineer had signed off
their component. When I draw a building, I look at every truss to
verify
that it is buildable based on the specifications, local code, and good
engineering practice. Many times I can simply tell at a glance that a
particular truss will work, or will not work based on my years in the
industry.
Different regions of the country are subject to different
considerations
as far as load criteria, and the availability of different species of
lumber. Illinois has to design for snow, but Florida has to design for
hurricanes. My expertise is in Florida and I would be at a loss
designing
for snow unless I had some time to adjust to designing for that
condition.
That is why I specifically recommended that he find a local truss
designer
who wants to moonlight. Some of the local truss companies, if they knew
you would be a customer, would even do the work for free or would allow
the cost of drawings to apply to the finally cost of the trusses.
Michael Bulatovich wrote:
So now you've got to invoice him for half the contract, right?
"Jerry G" <ustrus@ustrus.com> wrote in message
news:2aadnSFuz9q9qubeRVn-ow@fdn.com...
Suggest you get a contact in the local truss industry (like me) and
work
out a deal to do the truss layouts. That contact can avoid redraws
since
if he/she does their job right, they will check that the trusses
really
are buildable, and the truss company that ends up getting the contract
won't be calling you telling you that the trusses don't work as drawn,
fujka wrote:
Is it ok to post about work offers here?
Well here goes. I have some simple work that needs to be completed.
I have a house designs in autocad format. The drawings are pretty
good
I need wood truss and framing details. Thats it.
I have about 6 to do with maybe more. I will send you a sample
drawing
as an example. If interested please contact me I am looking for
someone
with a large amount of experience in this area and can turn over one
set
of drawings a week.
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Steve
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:10 am Post subject:
Re: WORK? |
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And he has to sign off those shop drawings that it follows the archiectural
design. We see a lot of shop drwgs with omissions and errors. Mostly because
they lack the time to infer missing details, and/or don't understand the
design.
"Michael Bulatovich" <Please@dont.try> wrote in message
news:EwMef.1900$KP5.265232@news20.bellglobal.com...
| Quote: | See Paul's post- the same applies to these parts.
That was the gist of my not-so-funny joke. Telling him that trusses will
be
done for him gratis has got to be worth something since he was about to
pay
someone to do it for him.
--
MichaelB
www.michaelbulatovich.ca
"Jerry G" <ustrus@ustrus.com> wrote in message
news:C_mdnXqGHcEE8ebeRVn-oA@fdn.com...
Not at all. Simply warning him that trusses are a specialty. I have seen
too many drawings by architects that simply could not be built as
drawn.... and that was after their structural engineer had signed off
their component. When I draw a building, I look at every truss to verify
that it is buildable based on the specifications, local code, and good
engineering practice. Many times I can simply tell at a glance that a
particular truss will work, or will not work based on my years in the
industry.
Different regions of the country are subject to different considerations
as far as load criteria, and the availability of different species of
lumber. Illinois has to design for snow, but Florida has to design for
hurricanes. My expertise is in Florida and I would be at a loss
designing
for snow unless I had some time to adjust to designing for that
condition.
That is why I specifically recommended that he find a local truss
designer
who wants to moonlight. Some of the local truss companies, if they knew
you would be a customer, would even do the work for free or would allow
the cost of drawings to apply to the finally cost of the trusses.
Michael Bulatovich wrote:
So now you've got to invoice him for half the contract, right?
"Jerry G" <ustrus@ustrus.com> wrote in message
news:2aadnSFuz9q9qubeRVn-ow@fdn.com...
Suggest you get a contact in the local truss industry (like me) and
work
out a deal to do the truss layouts. That contact can avoid redraws
since
if he/she does their job right, they will check that the trusses really
are buildable, and the truss company that ends up getting the contract
won't be calling you telling you that the trusses don't work as drawn,
fujka wrote:
Is it ok to post about work offers here?
Well here goes. I have some simple work that needs to be completed.
I have a house designs in autocad format. The drawings are pretty good
I need wood truss and framing details. Thats it.
I have about 6 to do with maybe more. I will send you a sample drawing
as an example. If interested please contact me I am looking for
someone
with a large amount of experience in this area and can turn over one
set
of drawings a week.
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Jerry G
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:10 am Post subject:
Re: WORK? |
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Here the truss company includes the drawings as part of the contract,
but the building department wants the drawings before the truss company
has been selected. The architect has to include a set of drawings in the
package with details that the truss company does not do. If the
architect knows which truss company will do the work, and has a good
relationship with the truss company, he/she will send it to be drawn as
a 50% completion set and will complete based on the truss company drawings.
Michael Bulatovich wrote:
| Quote: | See Paul's post- the same applies to these parts.
That was the gist of my not-so-funny joke. Telling him that trusses will be
done for him gratis has got to be worth something since he was about to pay
someone to do it for him. |
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Michael Bulatovich
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:10 am Post subject:
Re: WORK? |
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Same here.
Tough crowd here tonight <sweating, fingers collar>
"Jerry G" <ustrus@ustrus.com> wrote in message
news:zu-dnTR2YJ6CMebenZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@fdn.com...
| Quote: | Here the truss company includes the drawings as part of the contract, but
the building department wants the drawings before the truss company has
been selected. The architect has to include a set of drawings in the
package with details that the truss company does not do. If the architect
knows which truss company will do the work, and has a good relationship
with the truss company, he/she will send it to be drawn as a 50%
completion set and will complete based on the truss company drawings.
Michael Bulatovich wrote:
See Paul's post- the same applies to these parts.
That was the gist of my not-so-funny joke. Telling him that trusses will
be done for him gratis has got to be worth something since he was about
to pay someone to do it for him. |
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Robert
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:10 am Post subject:
Re: WORK? |
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Indeed they supply shop drawings when they quote if you ask for it.
Most of them use the Robbins Engineering Oline Plus TM
from http://www.robbinseng.com/robbins/online_plustm.html
Regards
R
"Michael Bulatovich" <Please@dont.try> wrote in message
news:EwMef.1900$KP5.265232@news20.bellglobal.com...
| Quote: | See Paul's post- the same applies to these parts.
That was the gist of my not-so-funny joke. Telling him that trusses will
be
done for him gratis has got to be worth something since he was about to
pay
someone to do it for him.
--
MichaelB
www.michaelbulatovich.ca
"Jerry G" <ustrus@ustrus.com> wrote in message
news:C_mdnXqGHcEE8ebeRVn-oA@fdn.com...
Not at all. Simply warning him that trusses are a specialty. I have seen
too many drawings by architects that simply could not be built as
drawn.... and that was after their structural engineer had signed off
their component. When I draw a building, I look at every truss to verify
that it is buildable based on the specifications, local code, and good
engineering practice. Many times I can simply tell at a glance that a
particular truss will work, or will not work based on my years in the
industry.
Different regions of the country are subject to different considerations
as far as load criteria, and the availability of different species of
lumber. Illinois has to design for snow, but Florida has to design for
hurricanes. My expertise is in Florida and I would be at a loss
designing
for snow unless I had some time to adjust to designing for that
condition.
That is why I specifically recommended that he find a local truss
designer
who wants to moonlight. Some of the local truss companies, if they knew
you would be a customer, would even do the work for free or would allow
the cost of drawings to apply to the finally cost of the trusses.
Michael Bulatovich wrote:
So now you've got to invoice him for half the contract, right?
"Jerry G" <ustrus@ustrus.com> wrote in message
news:2aadnSFuz9q9qubeRVn-ow@fdn.com...
Suggest you get a contact in the local truss industry (like me) and
work
out a deal to do the truss layouts. That contact can avoid redraws
since
if he/she does their job right, they will check that the trusses really
are buildable, and the truss company that ends up getting the contract
won't be calling you telling you that the trusses don't work as drawn,
fujka wrote:
Is it ok to post about work offers here?
Well here goes. I have some simple work that needs to be completed.
I have a house designs in autocad format. The drawings are pretty good
I need wood truss and framing details. Thats it.
I have about 6 to do with maybe more. I will send you a sample drawing
as an example. If interested please contact me I am looking for
someone
with a large amount of experience in this area and can turn over one
set
of drawings a week.
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fujka
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:10 am Post subject:
Re: WORK? |
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Well thanks to all for the ideas. The work is not even in this country.
I am just looking for someone with experience doing this specific kind
of work. These drawings will be used to build with. I understand all the
legal issues if things were being built here but that is not the case
with these drawings.
Robert wrote:
| Quote: | Indeed they supply shop drawings when they quote if you ask for it.
Most of them use the Robbins Engineering Oline Plus TM
from http://www.robbinseng.com/robbins/online_plustm.html
Regards
R
"Michael Bulatovich" <Please@dont.try> wrote in message
news:EwMef.1900$KP5.265232@news20.bellglobal.com...
See Paul's post- the same applies to these parts.
That was the gist of my not-so-funny joke. Telling him that trusses will
be
done for him gratis has got to be worth something since he was about to
pay
someone to do it for him.
--
MichaelB
www.michaelbulatovich.ca
"Jerry G" <ustrus@ustrus.com> wrote in message
news:C_mdnXqGHcEE8ebeRVn-oA@fdn.com...
Not at all. Simply warning him that trusses are a specialty. I have seen
too many drawings by architects that simply could not be built as
drawn.... and that was after their structural engineer had signed off
their component. When I draw a building, I look at every truss to verify
that it is buildable based on the specifications, local code, and good
engineering practice. Many times I can simply tell at a glance that a
particular truss will work, or will not work based on my years in the
industry.
Different regions of the country are subject to different considerations
as far as load criteria, and the availability of different species of
lumber. Illinois has to design for snow, but Florida has to design for
hurricanes. My expertise is in Florida and I would be at a loss
designing
for snow unless I had some time to adjust to designing for that
condition.
That is why I specifically recommended that he find a local truss
designer
who wants to moonlight. Some of the local truss companies, if they knew
you would be a customer, would even do the work for free or would allow
the cost of drawings to apply to the finally cost of the trusses.
Michael Bulatovich wrote:
So now you've got to invoice him for half the contract, right?
"Jerry G" <ustrus@ustrus.com> wrote in message
news:2aadnSFuz9q9qubeRVn-ow@fdn.com...
Suggest you get a contact in the local truss industry (like me) and
work
out a deal to do the truss layouts. That contact can avoid redraws
since
if he/she does their job right, they will check that the trusses really
are buildable, and the truss company that ends up getting the contract
won't be calling you telling you that the trusses don't work as drawn,
fujka wrote:
Is it ok to post about work offers here?
Well here goes. I have some simple work that needs to be completed.
I have a house designs in autocad format. The drawings are pretty good
I need wood truss and framing details. Thats it.
I have about 6 to do with maybe more. I will send you a sample drawing
as an example. If interested please contact me I am looking for
someone
with a large amount of experience in this area and can turn over one
set
of drawings a week.
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Steve
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:10 pm Post subject:
Re: WORK? |
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For sure.
"Michael Bulatovich" <Please@dont.try> wrote in message
news:0TOef.2801$w84.494205@news20.bellglobal.com...
| Quote: | He'd have to do that regardless of who drew it, no?
"Steve" <elbazarc@videotron.ca> wrote in message
news:X4Oef.33447$k96.991706@weber.videotron.net...
And he has to sign off those shop drawings that it follows the
archiectural
design. We see a lot of shop drwgs with omissions and errors. Mostly
because
they lack the time to infer missing details, and/or don't understand the
design.
"Michael Bulatovich" <Please@dont.try> wrote in message
news:EwMef.1900$KP5.265232@news20.bellglobal.com...
See Paul's post- the same applies to these parts.
That was the gist of my not-so-funny joke. Telling him that trusses
will
be
done for him gratis has got to be worth something since he was about to
pay
someone to do it for him.
--
MichaelB
www.michaelbulatovich.ca
"Jerry G" <ustrus@ustrus.com> wrote in message
news:C_mdnXqGHcEE8ebeRVn-oA@fdn.com...
Not at all. Simply warning him that trusses are a specialty. I have
seen
too many drawings by architects that simply could not be built as
drawn.... and that was after their structural engineer had signed off
their component. When I draw a building, I look at every truss to
verify
that it is buildable based on the specifications, local code, and
good
engineering practice. Many times I can simply tell at a glance that a
particular truss will work, or will not work based on my years in the
industry.
Different regions of the country are subject to different
considerations
as far as load criteria, and the availability of different species of
lumber. Illinois has to design for snow, but Florida has to design
for
hurricanes. My expertise is in Florida and I would be at a loss
designing
for snow unless I had some time to adjust to designing for that
condition.
That is why I specifically recommended that he find a local truss
designer
who wants to moonlight. Some of the local truss companies, if they
knew
you would be a customer, would even do the work for free or would
allow
the cost of drawings to apply to the finally cost of the trusses.
Michael Bulatovich wrote:
So now you've got to invoice him for half the contract, right?
"Jerry G" <ustrus@ustrus.com> wrote in message
news:2aadnSFuz9q9qubeRVn-ow@fdn.com...
Suggest you get a contact in the local truss industry (like me) and
work
out a deal to do the truss layouts. That contact can avoid redraws
since
if he/she does their job right, they will check that the trusses
really
are buildable, and the truss company that ends up getting the
contract
won't be calling you telling you that the trusses don't work as
drawn,
fujka wrote:
Is it ok to post about work offers here?
Well here goes. I have some simple work that needs to be completed.
I have a house designs in autocad format. The drawings are pretty
good
I need wood truss and framing details. Thats it.
I have about 6 to do with maybe more. I will send you a sample
drawing
as an example. If interested please contact me I am looking for
someone
with a large amount of experience in this area and can turn over
one
set
of drawings a week.
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