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Jerry G
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:10 pm Post subject:
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Funny that you mention Robbins since that is what I use, but most do NOT
use it. There are several programs in use, such as Mitek, Alpine, Truswal.
In the South Florida market you don't get a drawing until you sign a
contract (unless the boss likes you or you are a regular customer that
doesn't shop around for the price.)
However the South Forida market revolves around what are considerred ib
the industry to be some of the most complex truss layouts in the
country. In fact Robbins, Alpine and Mitek all headquarter in Florida
and beta test here because of the complexity which gives for a truer test.
Robert wrote:
| Quote: | Indeed they supply shop drawings when they quote if you ask for it.
Most of them use the Robbins Engineering Oline Plus TM
from http://www.robbinseng.com/robbins/online_plustm.html
Regards
R
"Michael Bulatovich" <Please@dont.try> wrote in message
news:EwMef.1900$KP5.265232@news20.bellglobal.com...
See Paul's post- the same applies to these parts.
That was the gist of my not-so-funny joke. Telling him that trusses will
be
done for him gratis has got to be worth something since he was about to
pay
someone to do it for him.
--
MichaelB
www.michaelbulatovich.ca
"Jerry G" <ustrus@ustrus.com> wrote in message
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Not at all. Simply warning him that trusses are a specialty. I have seen
too many drawings by architects that simply could not be built as
drawn.... and that was after their structural engineer had signed off
their component. When I draw a building, I look at every truss to verify
that it is buildable based on the specifications, local code, and good
engineering practice. Many times I can simply tell at a glance that a
particular truss will work, or will not work based on my years in the
industry.
Different regions of the country are subject to different considerations
as far as load criteria, and the availability of different species of
lumber. Illinois has to design for snow, but Florida has to design for
hurricanes. My expertise is in Florida and I would be at a loss
designing
for snow unless I had some time to adjust to designing for that
condition.
That is why I specifically recommended that he find a local truss
designer
who wants to moonlight. Some of the local truss companies, if they knew
you would be a customer, would even do the work for free or would allow
the cost of drawings to apply to the finally cost of the trusses.
Michael Bulatovich wrote:
So now you've got to invoice him for half the contract, right?
"Jerry G" <ustrus@ustrus.com> wrote in message
news:2aadnSFuz9q9qubeRVn-ow@fdn.com...
Suggest you get a contact in the local truss industry (like me) and
work
out a deal to do the truss layouts. That contact can avoid redraws
since
if he/she does their job right, they will check that the trusses really
are buildable, and the truss company that ends up getting the contract
won't be calling you telling you that the trusses don't work as drawn,
fujka wrote:
Is it ok to post about work offers here?
Well here goes. I have some simple work that needs to be completed.
I have a house designs in autocad format. The drawings are pretty good
I need wood truss and framing details. Thats it.
I have about 6 to do with maybe more. I will send you a sample drawing
as an example. If interested please contact me I am looking for
someone
with a large amount of experience in this area and can turn over one
set
of drawings a week.
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Jerry G
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:10 pm Post subject:
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Where are these trusses going? Wood trusses are not common outside of
North America due to the high cost of lumber in Europe, and the lower
strength of the lumber species available elsewhere. We use Southern
Yellow Pine, and other parts of the country use various Spruce/Pine/Fir
species, both with high strength values. Some of the most expensive
woods are that way because they have great grain patterns for cabinetry,
but are relatively weak in the key measurements relevant to
construction. The load criteria, the fact that the rest of the world
uses metric dimension lumber, and the difference in strengths, make
truss design here for other parts of the world very difficult. Metal
trusses are a completely different story, and use different software.
fujka wrote:
| Quote: | Well thanks to all for the ideas. The work is not even in this country.
I am just looking for someone with experience doing this specific kind
of work. These drawings will be used to build with. I understand all the
legal issues if things were being built here but that is not the case
with these drawings.
Robert wrote:
Indeed they supply shop drawings when they quote if you ask for it.
Most of them use the Robbins Engineering Oline Plus TM
from http://www.robbinseng.com/robbins/online_plustm.html
Regards
R
"Michael Bulatovich" <Please@dont.try> wrote in message
news:EwMef.1900$KP5.265232@news20.bellglobal.com...
See Paul's post- the same applies to these parts.
That was the gist of my not-so-funny joke. Telling him that trusses will
be
done for him gratis has got to be worth something since he was about to
pay
someone to do it for him.
--
MichaelB
www.michaelbulatovich.ca
"Jerry G" <ustrus@ustrus.com> wrote in message
news:C_mdnXqGHcEE8ebeRVn-oA@fdn.com...
Not at all. Simply warning him that trusses are a specialty. I have
seen
too many drawings by architects that simply could not be built as
drawn.... and that was after their structural engineer had signed off
their component. When I draw a building, I look at every truss to
verify
that it is buildable based on the specifications, local code, and good
engineering practice. Many times I can simply tell at a glance that a
particular truss will work, or will not work based on my years in the
industry.
Different regions of the country are subject to different
considerations
as far as load criteria, and the availability of different species of
lumber. Illinois has to design for snow, but Florida has to design for
hurricanes. My expertise is in Florida and I would be at a loss
designing
for snow unless I had some time to adjust to designing for that
condition.
That is why I specifically recommended that he find a local truss
designer
who wants to moonlight. Some of the local truss companies, if they knew
you would be a customer, would even do the work for free or would allow
the cost of drawings to apply to the finally cost of the trusses.
Michael Bulatovich wrote:
So now you've got to invoice him for half the contract, right?
"Jerry G" <ustrus@ustrus.com> wrote in message
news:2aadnSFuz9q9qubeRVn-ow@fdn.com...
Suggest you get a contact in the local truss industry (like me) and
work
out a deal to do the truss layouts. That contact can avoid redraws
since
if he/she does their job right, they will check that the trusses
really
are buildable, and the truss company that ends up getting the
contract
won't be calling you telling you that the trusses don't work as
drawn,
fujka wrote:
Is it ok to post about work offers here?
Well here goes. I have some simple work that needs to be completed.
I have a house designs in autocad format. The drawings are pretty
good
I need wood truss and framing details. Thats it.
I have about 6 to do with maybe more. I will send you a sample
drawing
as an example. If interested please contact me I am looking for
someone
with a large amount of experience in this area and can turn over one
set
of drawings a week.
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fujka
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:10 pm Post subject:
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Jerry are you interested? Do you know someone who would be?
Can I email you direct?
Jerry G wrote:
| Quote: | Suggest you get a contact in the local truss industry (like me) and work
out a deal to do the truss layouts. That contact can avoid redraws since
if he/she does their job right, they will check that the trusses really
are buildable, and the truss company that ends up getting the contract
won't be calling you telling you that the trusses don't work as drawn,
fujka wrote:
Is it ok to post about work offers here?
Well here goes. I have some simple work that needs to be completed.
I have a house designs in autocad format. The drawings are pretty good
I need wood truss and framing details. Thats it.
I have about 6 to do with maybe more. I will send you a sample drawing
as an example. If interested please contact me I am looking for
someone with a large amount of experience in this area and can turn
over one set of drawings a week. |
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birty
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Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:10 pm Post subject:
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as a carpenter i have picked up many many faults when trusses arrived
on site........ many wouldnt even form a simple valley that they were
designated to do.
plz see my post Curious.. posted today
burt |
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