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Don
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"P Fritz" <paulfritzNOSPAMFORME@voyager.net> wrote in message
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"P Fritz" <paulfritzNOSPAMFORME@voyager.net> wrote in message
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The Calcomp was are first plotter........it was cheap......but we
put
out
a
lot of prints with it before it died. Now we are running with a
designjet
430.......just had to have it repaired for the first time in 4-5
years.......the belt stretched and would not stay on track. The
repro
places prefer that we just send them plot files....they cansend
them
directly to their high speed machines, and not have to have
manpower
feeding in the individual sheets......our next big job will
probably
mean
the end of our diazo machine...........
We've been digitally sending files for a couple of years...we have no
diazo
machine. Check plots are done in house, sets are done digitally at
the
repro desk. We have not missed the smell of ammonia wafting through
the
office.
My partner still like to do the hand draw prelims and color up the
diazos..............sometimes you cannot teach an old dog.......
Sounds like a technique I learned while in school from a design partner
of a firm I was freelancing with at the time. We would do the
blackline prints which we underexposed (am I getting that right? It was
a long time ago), so our hardlined hand drawings were on very dark,
almost black/purple paper. We would then go back and trace with white
color pencil and other colors. We even did the poche in solid white
over this paper. It was time consuming, but made for some fantastic
presentation drawings. We would even color the plans this way, and add
black shadows after the base colors were down. It kind of gave a Beaux
Arts look to the drawings. I still have some in my old portfolio
because I liked them so much, and they had so much life to them.
That's too much work :-)
Most of the time it is just throwing a bit of marker on the
prints.......thre is something about the diazo paper....gives it a certain
"look"
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Its called *tooth*, the way the paper accepts the ink/pencil.
I'll always have a soft spot for vellum and blueprints, but I don't miss em.
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Don
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:10 pm Post subject:
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"Ron" <ron@nospamng.ca> wrote in message
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| Quote: | "Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in
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"Ron"> wrote
Any of you using this kind of plotter for architectural work ?
Pros and Cons ?
Looks like it has some baggage.
Take a look at epinion to see if there are some reviews.
With these things its the ongoing expenses that make the diff., check
cartridge/drum prices and take a look at the lifespan (number of
sheets) and divide it in half.
The manuf always say their printers print more than they actually do.
In stock form the 2500 seems to have some paper supply issues and its
noisy. Having said all that, I am an avid HP fan, having been
convinced long ago that their stuff is good.
5 years ago my HP660c printer failed, after owning it and running the
shit out of it for a couple years, so a call to HP caused them to send
a person to my door the very next morning to pick it up. They
delivered it back 6 days later *in better condition that the day it
was born*. Hoo-wee! Yeah!!! My HP450c has been going strong for almost
8 years now with little in the way of maintenance issues, only 2 belt
replacements a $250 a crack. Though I will admit it is making some
strange sounds lately so I may have a maintenance review done
($350.00). My HP120c has been kicking hard for about 5 years now with
no problems. It will print on 17" wide paper. (HP says it will print
on 19" wide paper but I have never been able to find it).
http://tinyurl.com/9cctj
Umm Don I was asking about the Designjet not the laserjet !
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Damn, and I did all that runnin around for nuthin???? LOL |
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Cato
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:10 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | Sounds like a technique I learned while in school from a design partner
of a firm I was freelancing with at the time. We would do the
blackline prints which we underexposed (am I getting that right? It was
a long time ago), so our hardlined hand drawings were on very dark,
almost black/purple paper. We would then go back and trace with white
color pencil and other colors. We even did the poche in solid white
over this paper. It was time consuming, but made for some fantastic
presentation drawings. We would even color the plans this way, and add
black shadows after the base colors were down. It kind of gave a Beaux
Arts look to the drawings. I still have some in my old portfolio
because I liked them so much, and they had so much life to them.
That's too much work :-)
Most of the time it is just throwing a bit of marker on the
prints.......thre is something about the diazo paper....gives it a certain
"look"
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You're damn right it was too much work. LOL
After working with this firm, I decided to do one of my final
presentations in the same manner for my first Grad School studio.
Everyone else was pretty much doing ink on mylar, so I had to be
'different'. There was a point at about 3:00 am that I was wondering
if I had bitten off more than I could chew. It worked out, and I got
many compliments during my jury. I even won an award for one of the
drawings in a Delineation Competition later that year, but it was the
LAST time I used that technique. I look back fondly on how they came
out, but seem to conveniently forget how much work went into them. ;-)
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Don
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:10 am Post subject:
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"P Fritz"> wrote
| Quote: | In the mean time.........Tuesday I was dusting off the old
resume......things were looking that grim.
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Oh my, you're scaring me Paul.
Hey, I'll give you $10k right now for that boat!
But you gotta throw in an aluminum trailer! heh-heh
Wednesday.......out of the
| Quote: | blue, a project that had been dead for 5 months came back to
life.......the
intial work is only to get them through site plan approval, but they want
to
break ground next spring..........200k s.f. office/industrial...........I
may need to bring the pillow and blankets back to the office if this plays
out....................feast of famine.....................
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Attaboy! Next rounds on me, Prost!!!! |
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