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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:10 am    Post subject: I can't possibly be the only living person to have experienc Reply with quote

Using A2k, heavily use xrefs, sometimes with associative hatching.
Associative hatches cause some strange behavior. In some drawings,
I open them and get that annoying little message:

"Do you really want to do this? <N>"

And this happens before any action is performed in the drawing
whatsoever. If I say no (and the drawing happens to be large),
it does its thing which sometimes take forever, updating (I think)
the associative hatches. Plus It asks me the same thing for every
blessed hatch in the drawing. Sometimes I just have to ctl-alt-del
AutoCAD to end the process. It would sit for hours if I let it.
It will do this in the same drawing every time I open it unless
I go into the base drawing (s) and disassociate all the hatches.
Sometimes the behavior will change depending on the view. In
other words, If I zoom to a different location, save the drawing
and go back in, the behavior will sometimes not repeat.

Whats worse is that, if I answer "yes", It will occasionaly go through the
process
and copy all the nested xref'd entities involved to layer "0" and place them
in the
drawing. You can imagine how much fun that is to fix. These types of issues
render
associative hatches nearly completely useless to me. Does this behavior
occur in later versions? I have 2004/2005, but have not really upgraded to
either yet.
Perhaps its about time eh, but I'm leary of what new weird little buggy
things await me
in those vers.

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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 8:10 pm    Post subject: Re: I can't possibly be the only living person to have exper Reply with quote

Oh well, perhaps I was wrong, it seems I am the only one. Sigh


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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:10 am    Post subject: Re: I can't possibly be the only living person to have exper Reply with quote

On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:39:35 -0700, "Phych" <me@noway.net> wrote:



Quote:
Using A2k, heavily use xrefs, sometimes with associative hatching.
Associative hatches cause some strange behavior. In some drawings,

Don't assoc Hatch to an xref
it means that all xrefed entities must be recheck against the Hatch
each time an xref is loaded (or drawing opened.
while it might be nice to have your ceiling realign itself when
someone changes the walls in the source drawing
this behavior causes everything to be reanalized every time
use bpoly to create a polyline border for your hatch and associate to
that exclusively so when the walls change just fix the poly line to
fix the hatch


plenty of changes bugs in the new releases but the improvements
outweigh the problems

read the what's new and decide

2006 allows you to reassociate a hatch
so I assume you can disassociate it also
(I don't think that will solve your problem though)
use bpoly or put the hatches in the backgrounds

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I open them and get that annoying little message:

"Do you really want to do this? <N>"

And this happens before any action is performed in the drawing
whatsoever. If I say no (and the drawing happens to be large),
it does its thing which sometimes take forever, updating (I think)
the associative hatches. Plus It asks me the same thing for every
blessed hatch in the drawing. Sometimes I just have to ctl-alt-del
AutoCAD to end the process. It would sit for hours if I let it.
It will do this in the same drawing every time I open it unless
I go into the base drawing (s) and disassociate all the hatches.
Sometimes the behavior will change depending on the view. In
other words, If I zoom to a different location, save the drawing
and go back in, the behavior will sometimes not repeat.

Whats worse is that, if I answer "yes", It will occasionaly go through the
process
and copy all the nested xref'd entities involved to layer "0" and place them
in the
drawing. You can imagine how much fun that is to fix. These types of issues
render
associative hatches nearly completely useless to me. Does this behavior
occur in later versions? I have 2004/2005, but have not really upgraded to
either yet.
Perhaps its about time eh, but I'm leary of what new weird little buggy
things await me
in those vers.




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Phych
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 12:10 am    Post subject: Re: I can't possibly be the only living person to have exper Reply with quote

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll try avoiding the "pick point"
feature in favor of drawing a polyline. Sometimes my areas are
somewhat complex however, I suppose I could have AutoCAD
use the "boundary" command first to define the area I wish to hatch.
It also however means adding a new (no-plot) definition layer (I dislike
defpoints,
it has its own annoying peculiarities).

Hmmm. Definately worth a shot


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On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:39:35 -0700, "Phych" <me@noway.net> wrote:



Using A2k, heavily use xrefs, sometimes with associative hatching.
Associative hatches cause some strange behavior. In some drawings,

Don't assoc Hatch to an xref
it means that all xrefed entities must be recheck against the Hatch
each time an xref is loaded (or drawing opened.
while it might be nice to have your ceiling realign itself when
someone changes the walls in the source drawing
this behavior causes everything to be reanalized every time

Its odd though how it doesn't actually happen "every time", and does happen
even when nothing has been changed in the source drawing.

Quote:
use bpoly to create a polyline border for your hatch and associate to
that exclusively so when the walls change just fix the poly line to
fix the hatch
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