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Mike Harrison
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Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:10 pm Post subject:
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I agree with Carolyn, and learned cadd by reading books and by trial and
error (lots and lots of trial and error). I have several books on Cadd but
my favorite is "Autocad 2000 instant reference" by Sybex. I find it very
useful.
"Carolyn" <cehlen@GOAWAYcolumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Michael Bulatovich" <Please@dont.try> wrote in message
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I'm pretty fussy (to put it politely) about people getting to know, and
then
using the correct terms for things, and this is exactly why. You can't
have
an intelligent exchange if you say potato but really mean tomato. I
recommend adopting the language in the help as much as possible to help
make
the help more helpful, and to help you get good answers quickly from your
buddies at alt.cad.autocad.
--
MichaelB
www.michaelbulatovich.ca
"Carolyn" <cehlen@GOAWAYcolumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
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I looked through the help file but to use the help file effectively you
must
know the proper name or be able to describe the annoyance using the
proper
term.
I can understand why somebody not using the proper terms could be
extremely
annoying. In my defense, I am self employed and could not take the time
to
learn the software like I should. I literally got it on a Friday and
started
making drawings about a week later. I cannot afford to pay $900 for a
course or take the time out to go to a class since my livelihood depends
on
production. This causes you to learn what you need and then panic when
something goes wrong. :o) I gain knowledge when I have to do something
different or when something goes haywire.
I have, from time to time, used some of the courses that you can find
online
and hope to learn more as time goes by. When I went to school, drafting
was
done on a table with a T-square. Everyone who learned AutoCAD in school,
or
at a large company that gave them time to explore the software, is
extremely
lucky.
Carolyn
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Michael Bulatovich
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Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:10 pm Post subject:
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"Carolyn" <cehlen@GOAWAYcolumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I can understand why somebody not using the proper terms could be
extremely
annoying. In my defense, I am self employed and could not take the time
to
learn the software like I should. I literally got it on a Friday and
started
making drawings about a week later.
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It's not so much annoying as frustrating. Much time is spent trying to
figure out what the other person means, instead of fixing the problem. As
for being self-taught, most of us are in the same boat. I learned from a
book. Perhaps that forced me to focus on the printed word, and therefore the
"lingo".
| Quote: | I cannot afford to pay $900 for a
course or take the time out to go to a class since my livelihood depends
on
production. This causes you to learn what you need and then panic when
something goes wrong. :o) I gain knowledge when I have to do something
different or when something goes haywire.
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Between deadlines, there are many opportunities buried in everyday use of
the application. Ever have some command in some situation not work the way
you expect? Ever move on to using another method without understanding why
the first one didn't work? That's a missed opportunity. Take the time, when
you can, to understand what you were doing wrong, which is the case 19 times
out of 20, instead of assuming something else is at fault. The software is
not perfect, but it's pretty good. (Better than most operators.)
| Quote: | I have, from time to time, used some of the courses that you can find
online
and hope to learn more as time goes by. When I went to school, drafting
was
done on a table with a T-square. Everyone who learned AutoCAD in school,
or
at a large company that gave them time to explore the software, is
extremely
lucky.
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Indeed. You have to make the most of the opportunities presented to you. I
had to teach myself the rudiments, after having demonstrated some skill on
another platform, before someone would pay me to draw on acad. |
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Michael Bulatovich
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Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:10 pm Post subject:
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I used to keep a concise command reference at hand too. After you get to
know the terrain, the help tells all.
I used to pester the cad "experts" who were willing to waste their time on
me, until I knew everything they knew. I now use the net the same way.
--
MichaelB
www.michaelbulatovich.ca
"Mike Harrison" <walker7729@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I agree with Carolyn, and learned cadd by reading books and by trial and
error (lots and lots of trial and error). I have several books on Cadd but
my favorite is "Autocad 2000 instant reference" by Sybex. I find it very
useful. |
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Paul Turvill
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Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:10 pm Post subject:
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I think the biggest difference between the current generation of
"self-taught" AutoCAD users and those of us who were using it in the days of
1.x is that in those days Autodesk supplied the software along with
literally *volumes* of printed documentation. Self-teaching with
documentation written by the software provider gave us the advantage of
getting all of the proper terminology directly from the, er, experts at
Autodesk.
Further, among those docs were very comprehensive LISP and Customization
manuals, complete with tutorial exercises. Anyone with moderate reading
comprehension could learn not only AutoCAD, but how to do some pretty
sophisticated customization as well. Alas, the days of printed documentation
are long gone, and not just at Autodesk.
___
"Michael Bulatovich" <Please@dont.try> wrote in message
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It's not so much annoying as frustrating. Much time is spent trying to
figure out what the other person means, instead of fixing the problem. As
for being self-taught, most of us are in the same boat. I learned from a
book. Perhaps that forced me to focus on the printed word, and therefore
the "lingo". |
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Michael Bulatovich
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Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:10 pm Post subject:
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I still have a two-inch thick, hard-covered R12 manual under my thermal fax
machine to keep the curly bits from clogging up the machine...
The online help is a bit harder to read, I'll grant you, but you can still
get by with it. I Didn't take on any customization until r14, and got that
all from a screen, and these newsgroups.
--
MichaelB
www.michaelbulatovich.ca
"Paul Turvill" <nospam@turvill.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I think the biggest difference between the current generation of
"self-taught" AutoCAD users and those of us who were using it in the days
of 1.x is that in those days Autodesk supplied the software along with
literally *volumes* of printed documentation. Self-teaching with
documentation written by the software provider gave us the advantage of
getting all of the proper terminology directly from the, er, experts at
Autodesk.
Further, among those docs were very comprehensive LISP and Customization
manuals, complete with tutorial exercises. Anyone with moderate reading
comprehension could learn not only AutoCAD, but how to do some pretty
sophisticated customization as well. Alas, the days of printed
documentation are long gone, and not just at Autodesk.
___
"Michael Bulatovich" <Please@dont.try> wrote in message
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It's not so much annoying as frustrating. Much time is spent trying to
figure out what the other person means, instead of fixing the problem. As
for being self-taught, most of us are in the same boat. I learned from a
book. Perhaps that forced me to focus on the printed word, and therefore
the "lingo".
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